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J-o-e wrote:How does it limit things to allow more people to get married?

Polygamy limits people's chances and freedom to partnered. It by no means raises liberty.

Lightford wrote:Polygamy limits people's chances and freedom to partnered. It by no means raises liberty.

HOW? You do realize they want to be in these relationships? By banning these relationships you are getting rid of these partners! People in polyamorous relationships often don’t want to be in monogamous relationships! That’s like saying gay marriage should be banned because if gay people get married to who they want the available pool of unmarried people will decrease, giving straight people less dating options!

Ajidiali and Tajono

Lightford wrote:Polygamy limits people's chances and freedom to partnered. It by no means raises liberty.

I'm afraid you are quite mistaken on this one friend. It doesn't effect ability to marry and does increase liberties.

Ajidiali, J-o-e, and Tajono

The Earldom of Fallsbury wrote:Could you elaborate on the "having a right to an available partner" ? That could go a few ways, some of them not very good.

One on one relations would be less wasteful leading to less shortages. Anyone can have a partner since there's not as many taken. It's the true compromise for both monogamists and polygamous people.

The Earldom of Fallsbury wrote:I'm afraid you are quite mistaken on this one friend. It doesn't effect ability to marry and does increase liberties.

The same argument can be used for prostitution. It doesn't liberate people.

Lightford wrote:One on one relations would be less wasteful leading to less shortages. Anyone can have a partner since there's not as many taken. It's the true compromise for both monogamists and polygamous people.

Is this sexual marketplace philosophy? The same number of people are getting married, just in slightly different ways. Everyone can still have a partner/s if they so choose.

J-o-e and Tajono

Lightford wrote:Not directly. You could use the same argument against legalizing gay marriage. It doesn't affect me but it helps other. Having a right to have a an available partner is the real right. There's be less emptiness.

Strictly spoken, no one have a right to have a partner at all. And do you actually mean that polyamorous relationships should be illegal? If so, how would you enforce it? How would the government define a relationship? You would need a formal definition, if you are to enforce it by law!

Polygamy may be mentally unhealthy to some - possibly most - people. But the government would just get stuck in a swamp of weird definition arguments if it actually tried to ban it. The only thing about it you can really stop easily, is legally recognized marriages.

Beside, there clearly are some people who seem to be happy in polyamorous relationships. So why not just let them live like that, if it is what they prefer? People who do not feel comfortable in polyamorous relationships usually know themselves well enough to stay out of those anyway, I hope.

Lightford wrote:One on one relations would be less wasteful leading to less shortages. Anyone can have a partner since there's not as many taken. It's the true compromise for both monogamists and polygamous people.

So you're saying that by forcing polygamists to be monogamous, this will increase the chances for people to have partners?

These people chose to be together, and forcing them to separate from their lovers just to partner up with other people who don't have partners would result in less happier people and relationships.

J-o-e wrote:HOW? You do realize they want to be in these relationships? By banning these relationships you are getting rid of these partners! People in polyamorous relationships often don’t want to be in monogamous relationships! That’s like saying gay marriage should be banned because if gay people get married to who they want the available pool of unmarried people will decrease, giving straight people less dating options!

And who's hurt by these laws today? There are internally polygamous people that had their lives saved because the model of healthy relations is instilled in them. People who hurt isn't because their opportunities are limited but because of authority's existence.

Ejoland is quite right, no one has a "right" to a partner. It almost sounds as if you feel a partner should be provided to you by the government.

Evokice, Yemrod, Fleshbird, and Tajono

The Earldom of Fallsbury wrote:Ejoland is quite right, no one has a "right" to a partner. It almost sounds as if you feel a partner should be provided to you by the government.

State mandated girlfriend time

The Earldom of Fallsbury, Yemrod, Fleshbird, and Tajono

Post self-deleted by Tajono.

Lightford wrote:One on one relations would be less wasteful leading to less shortages. Anyone can have a partner since there's not as many taken. It's the true compromise for both monogamists and polygamous people.

But if for example you have one polyamorous relationship with four people or two monogamous relationships with two people the same amount of people would get to be in a relationship. Your argument makes no sense.

Lightford wrote:And who's hurt by these laws today? There are internally polygamous people that had their lives saved because the model of healthy relations is instilled in them. People who hurt isn't because their opportunities are limited but because of authority's existence.

‘Gay marriage legalization laws are hurting gay people, there are ex gay people who had their lives saved because they went to conversion therapy and learned the right way to love’

Lightford wrote:The same argument can be used for prostitution. It doesn't liberate people.

SWERF detected

Tajono wrote:You really think you're a saviour to these people by banning them from loving each other?

Try talking to a polyamorist and see what they think of you.

There are other forms of love. Friendships are a good alternative. Just because I can't date someone doesn't mean I can't like them.

J-o-e wrote:‘Gay marriage legalization laws are hurting gay people, there are ex gay people who had their lives saved because they went to conversion therapy and learned the right way to love’

There are clear statistics disproving that. Something like someone who's denied multiple relationships could convince me but I doubt there are any that shows it's bad.

Lightford wrote:There are other forms of love. Friendships are a good alternative. Just because I can't date someone doesn't mean I can't like them.

Gay people should be banned from marrying. They can just be friends instead, that’s basically the same so I’m totally not infringing on their equal rights.

Lightford wrote:There are other forms of love. Friendships are a good alternative. Just because I can't date someone doesn't mean I can't like them.

Platonic and romantic love aren't interchangeable. The love you feel for your friends isn't the same as your lover(s).

Tajono wrote:Platonic and romantic love aren't interchangeable. The love you feel for your friends isn't the same as your lover(s).

I know people that have been crushed solely because they couldn't be in open relationships. Once they found another person, they realized it's not necessary for multiple people to be in love.

Lightford wrote:I know people that have been crushed solely because they couldn't be in open relationships. Once they found another person, they realized it's not necessary for multiple people to be in love.

Some people are fine in either polyamorous or monogamous relationships. Just because you happened to meet some of those types of people doesn’t mean people who only want polyamorous relationships don’t exist. That’s like saying you knew a gay person who turned out to be bi and therefore gay marriage should be banned because all gay people must actually be bi. I know I keep comparing this to gay marriage, but only because it’s an accurate comparison.

Tajono

Lightford wrote:I know people that have been crushed solely because they couldn't be in open relationships. Once they found another person, they realized it's not necessary for multiple people to be in love.

If they don't want to be together because they prefer an open relationship, then that's their choice. You can't force another person to date someone else.

The Earldom of Fallsbury, Yemrod, and J-o-e

Lightford wrote:It's a human rights violation that must stay dead and be eliminated in negligent countries. Religion can't justify it since by that logic, religious discrimination against others should also be tolerated. Everyone has the right to have a partner or none at all. It's either 1 or 0.

Yep

J-o-e. Ur outnumbered.
Give up. I thought u support human rights

Yemrod wrote:J-o-e. Ur outnumbered.
Give up. I thought u support human rights

I think you misread our posts...

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