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Suzi Island wrote:

There is a category called stationary that shows you how long you have been in a given region.

Thanks! It's a bit over two and a half years, wow, time flies. I was a fresh-faced 19 year old then, newly libertarian, hadn't been involved with the party at all.

One of the sweet elderly ladies attends a Sunday school class with us. Before the class started, she spoke in a voice that sounded like regret, "I helped tear down a statue back in high school."
The Sunday School group all turned to look at her.
She then beams with a smile, "Well, it was Jubilation T Cornpone after our Lil'Abner play."
80 years strong and still a ham.

:)

Just a reminder rioting and looting in no way spreads corona only going to bars and restaurants

Corona is Coming to Town
Oh, you'd better not church, you'd better keep dry, you'd better social distance, I'm telling you why -- Corona is coming to town...
It's making a list, and checking it twice, gonna find out who priviliged or right -- Corona is coming to town...
It sees you when you're shopkeeping. It knows when you're a Woke. It knows if you' re a "mostly peaceful" rioter, so be a pawn for Marx's sake.

eh, it needs a lot of work.

Narland wrote:

Corona is Coming to Town
Oh, you'd better not church, you'd better keep dry, you'd better social distance, I'm telling you why -- Corona is coming to town...
It's making a list, and checking it twice, gonna find out who priviliged or right -- Corona is coming to town...
It sees you when you're shopkeeping. It knows when you're a Woke. It knows if you' re a "mostly peaceful" rioter, so be a pawn for Marx's sake.

eh, it needs a lot of work.

It's pretty good

Heres an idea, how about we cut funding to these schools from elementary on up that teach that America sucks and western ideals of faith, honor, and service are bad. How about we teach students that despite our mistakes the west and the usa in particular have been a bastion of freedom and prosperity. Maybe the next generation then wont believe in the lies of Marxism which to this day kills and enslaves people.

ooohhh we will privatize the schools and privatize the police, we'll privatize the fire department and sewage facilities, we'll privatize the water and we'll privatize the air, we'll privatize roads because we don't care

Bieva wrote:

viruses don't have political views folks

Yes, so please wear your mask and distance as well as you can. I have a younger brother with only 50% lung capacity and asthma— we all think we are immune until it’s us.

Jadentopian order wrote:

Yes, so please wear your mask and distance as well as you can. I have a younger brother with only 50% lung capacity and asthma— we all think we are immune until it’s us.

What's this thing about wearing a mask in America? Afaik scientists don't agree on how useful they really are

The new icelandic commonwealth wrote:

What's this thing about wearing a mask in America? Afaik scientists don't agree on how useful they really are

It's not completely agreed how effective they are, but its mostly for keeping it from spreading rather than not getting it

In the 80s and 90s we had nearly a dozen extended family who lived in or around King County (Seattle) Washington. As of 2020, we only have one family still there. The horror stories he tells as though that kind of life is "normal" makes me feel sorry for him.

Skaveria wrote:

What're some good criticisms of The Confederate States of America besides slavery from a Libertarian perspective? On the surface, a Confederal style of government seems inherently freer than a Federal style.

I'm already aware of the protectionism that was rampant in the South, and I'm also aware that several founders of the American Socialist and Labor parties were Southerners that shed their racism.

How do I square what seems to me to be the most individualist, rebelious, part of the country in terms of culture, with these facts? I'd like to take a course on the American South, but it wouldn't go towards my major and I'm suspicious it'd be riddled with propaganda.

Taxonomy
One of the greatest was the taxonomic changes. Before the civil war a confederacy was supposed to have a stronger central government than than a federal government. federal = federation.

The rub is that America is also a Union. The North seized the concept to impose Nationalization of the Federal Government not just over the 17 specific elements, but using the elastic clause to glob undelegated powers from all sources. Before the Civil War it was these United States. After the Civil war it was this United States. (Our Civil War was actually a Revolutionary War, as the United States was no longer a United Federation with a singular representative State (DC), but a Federal Union with a national state of the State (The Federal Government itself)).

The South needed to call itself something so it made a callback to the American Confederacy of the American Revolution. Before the Civil War the Confederacy had a stronger centralized governance Executively and Legislatively, but not Judicially. After the Civil War the North Federal Government had stronger powers all around and consolidated its claim with the Reconstruction. The concepts of a Federal Government having more centralization than a Confederacy has been set by this accident of history.

What was wrong with the Confederacy
The Confederacy was proto-Marxist in a loose American Christian Democrat sense but not an a Atheistic Marxist way -- although an actual Marxist revolution with all the hate, bigotry racism, that comes with Marxism, and lack of industry would have been very easy to accomplish. All the problems that have plagued the Democratic Party were intensified since the Democratic Party was ascendant (the party of chattel slavery, anti-equality, anti-13th Amendment, anti-Civil rights acts, pro-Jim Crow, pro-KKK, pro-segregation, pro-serfdom, pro-Socialist, anti-personal liberty.

There was a 3rd Great Awakening that went through the South in the 50s and 60s. Orthodox Christians hold that there is only one race, human (and any racial distinctions are cultural and familial). But the South gravitated to the racism taught in the social sciences of the time that Whites were evolutionary superior to other races. While they were anti-intellectual, they prided themselves on picking and choosing from the sciences what supported their prejudices.

The Confederacy was Anti-Intellectual (in the american sense) in general.

The South was adamant that Chattel Slavery was justified because of the scientifically proven superiority of Whites on one hand, and that God allowed it on the other --even though chattel slavery as practiced by the South is forbidden in Leviticus and the science to which they noted (what became known as Eugenics and Social Darwinism) was absolutely refuted by the end of WW2, but had standing in Academia until then.

They did not believe that Equality applied to all human beings. (Some people are more equal than others).

They did not believe that rights were inalienable.

They believed in poll taxes and direct taxation of the Citizenry which Federalists, Republicans (generic sense), and the GOP are supposed to abhor.

Republic of minerva wrote:

look up george fitzhugh

this guy was the epitome of "southern socialism"

The most striking thing I learned from reading about him is that he not only supported the enslavement of blacks, but wanted to EXPAND it to include whites as well.

Unnamed abolitionist, 1849- "But George, enslaving people because of their race is wrong!"

George, *eyes narrowing*- "You know what...?"