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An amendment was brought in to the bill, make sure to check it out

Section I : Definition of Dependencies

❈ The definition of dependencies of intelligence agencies within the intelligence community is distinguished by partnerships and authorities whereby a dependent intelligence agency, for instance, will operate exclusively under the authorities of upper administration and a sub-dependent agency will operate primarily under the authorities of upper administration but the agency has the ability to execute its own activities in some circumstances – while an independent agency will operate exclusively on partnerships with the government but this category is presently excluded from the bill due to numerous risks.

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Marevis wrote:
The Parliament of Ravana Assembled, Under Blessing of The Sovereign and Pontifex Maximus, Under Oath of Democracy and Fealty, Do Hereby Enact the Following

Section I
❈ There will be hereby establishing the regulations and accountabilities of Ravanian intelligence agencies within assorted different government departments.

Subsection I.A
❈ Thresholds and accountabilities which is assorted between different government departments will include domestic intelligence, foreign intelligence, signal intelligence and military intelligence.

Subsection I.B
❈ Subdivisional thresholds and accountabilities will include human intelligence, counter-intelligence and intelligence assessment, nevertheless, the terms may be fluctuated and could conceivably contain crime intelligence, counter-extremism and public disorder intelligence and counter-terrorism intelligence.

Section II
❈ Domestic intelligence agencies will fall under direct or subordinate jurisdiction of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (Home Office), His Majesty's Principal Minister of Internal Affairs (Home Secretary) or as a sub-dependent agency(s) under His Majesty's Government.

Section III
❈ Foreign intelligence agencies will fall under direct or subordinate jurisdiction of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, His Majesty's Principal Minister of Foreign Affairs (Foreign Minister) or as a sub-dependent agency(s) under His Majesty's Government.

Section IV
❈ Signal intelligence agencies will fall under the jurisdiction of His Majesty's Government as a sub-dependent agency with His Majesty's Principal Minister of Foreign Affairs (Foreign Minister) as the Minister Responsible.

Section V
❈ Military intelligence agencies will fall under the jurisdiction of His Majesty's Armed Forces.

Section VI
❈ Variation of intelligence agencies not constituted in this bill may fall under the jurisdiction of His Majesty's Government as a dependent agency unless bilateral authorisation is made between the Prime Minister and the Minister Responsible or the responsible Chief of the Defence Staff.

Section VII
❈ Intelligence agencies may be established without the approval of the Prime Minister and the Parliament as long as the agency is established as a dependent agency rather of a sub-dependent agency while intelligence agencies under the jurisdiction of His Majesty's Government will always require Prime Minister's approval whether it is dependent or not.

Section VIII
❈ This bill becomes effective upon passage and approval.

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I will sponsor this bill in parliament, and will be discussing it with my fellow members of parliament. Thank you for bringing this to our attention, and thank you for leading our ministry of foreign affairs.

Farlandiay, Nerpidirk, and Marevis

Hi I'm a straggaler from the new United federations, I'm also kinda new at the game

Retition, Farlandiay, Glacio revera, Victoria pond, and 2 othersMarevis, and Anura plato

Welcome to Ravana Empathetica!

What attracted you to NationStates? Do you like playing political games?

Farlandiay and Glacio revera

Victoria pond wrote:Welcome to Ravana Empathetica!

What attracted you to NationStates? Do you like playing political games?

Kinda, I heard about it from my freinds and decided to try it out.

Farlandiay and Anura plato

Ravana is a casual region but we give people space to go hard too if they want. What kind kf real life stuff are you interested in? Maybe we can point you to a related area of gameplay?

Glacio revera

Empathetica wrote:Kinda, I heard about it from my freinds and decided to try it out.

did you hear about it from that drew guy i don't remember his name

Anura plato wrote:did you hear about it from that drew guy i don't remember his name

Yeah, do you go to Fort High too?

Victoria pond wrote:Ravana is a casual region but we give people space to go hard too if they want. What kind kf real life stuff are you interested in? Maybe we can point you to a related area of gameplay?

Just politics and debate stuff, the roleplay sounds intresting too.

Farlandiay and Qavania

Empathetica wrote:Yeah, do you go to Fort High too?Just politics and debate stuff, the roleplay sounds intresting too.

no i meant the youtuber that's kind of a coincidence isn't that in

Glacio revera and Empathetica

Anura plato wrote:no i meant the youtuber that's kind of a coincidence isn't that in

A ton of people joined from that youtube guy haha. The funniest part is, he didn't even play the game the real way! It's about so much more than just answering issues.

Victoria pond, Qavania, Anura plato, Fal loconia, and 1 otherEmpathetica

Marevis wrote:
The Parliament of Ravana Assembled, Under Blessing of The Sovereign and Pontifex Maximus, Under Oath of Democracy and Fealty, Do Hereby Enact the Following

Section I
❈ There will be hereby establishing the regulations and accountabilities of Ravanian intelligence agencies within assorted different government departments.

Subsection I.A
❈ Thresholds and accountabilities which is assorted between different government departments will include domestic intelligence, foreign intelligence, signal intelligence and military intelligence.

Subsection I.B
❈ Subdivisional thresholds and accountabilities will include human intelligence, counter-intelligence and intelligence assessment, nevertheless, the terms may be fluctuated and could conceivably contain crime intelligence, counter-extremism and public disorder intelligence and counter-terrorism intelligence.

Section II
❈ Domestic intelligence agencies will fall under direct or subordinate jurisdiction of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (Home Office), His Majesty's Principal Minister of Internal Affairs (Home Secretary) or as a sub-dependent agency(s) under His Majesty's Government.

Section III
❈ Foreign intelligence agencies will fall under direct or subordinate jurisdiction of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, His Majesty's Principal Minister of Foreign Affairs (Foreign Minister) or as a sub-dependent agency(s) under His Majesty's Government.

Section IV
❈ Signal intelligence agencies will fall under the jurisdiction of His Majesty's Government as a sub-dependent agency with His Majesty's Principal Minister of Foreign Affairs (Foreign Minister) as the Minister Responsible.

Section V
❈ Military intelligence agencies will fall under the jurisdiction of His Majesty's Armed Forces.

Section VI
❈ Variation of intelligence agencies not constituted in this bill may fall under the jurisdiction of His Majesty's Government as a dependent agency unless bilateral authorisation is made between the Prime Minister and the Minister Responsible or the responsible Chief of the Defence Staff.

Section VII
❈ Intelligence agencies may be established without the approval of the Prime Minister and the Parliament as long as the agency is established as a dependent agency rather of a sub-dependent agency while intelligence agencies under the jurisdiction of His Majesty's Government will always require Prime Minister's approval whether it is dependent or not.

Section VIII
❈ This bill becomes effective upon passage and approval.

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I have made some modifications, let me know what you think.

The Parliament of Ravana Assembled, Under Blessing of The Sovereign and Pontifex Maximus, Under Oath of Democracy and Fealty, Do Hereby Enact the Following

Section I
❈ 1.1 We hereby establish the regulations and accountabilities of the Ravanian intelligence agency, known as the Inter-regional Royal Intelligence Service (I.R.I.S.)
❈ 1.2 The Inter-regional Royal Intelligence Service shall fall under special joint oversight between the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Sovereign of Ravana.

Section II
❈ 2.1 IRIS shall have authority over domestic intelligence, foreign intelligence, signal intelligence and military intelligence.
❈ 2.2 IRIS shall have permission to conduct human intelligence, counter-intelligence, intelligence assessment, crime intelligence, counter-extremism, public disorder intelligence, signal intelligence, and counter-terrorism intelligence.
❈ 2.3 Domestic intelligence operations will fall under direct jurisdiction of the Sovereign.
❈ 2.4 Foreign intelligence agencies will fall under direct of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
❈ 2.5 Military intelligence will be coordinated between the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and His Majesty's Armed Forces.

Section III
❈ 3.1 The Ministry of Foreign Affairs shall be tasked with managing internal matters including promotion, operations management, recruitment, dismissals, and internal organization. The Sovereign shall participate in determining operation objectives, approving operations, and shall be consulted before all operations are conducted.

By Writ and Right, it is done unto law, this day the 6th of June, Two Thousand and Twenty, the Second Year of Glacio Revera's Reign.

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Farlandiay, Glacio revera, Qavania, and Marevis

Phyrexon wrote:I have made some modifications, let me know what you think.

I think I like this version better.

Glacio revera and Phyrexon

Phyrexon wrote:I have made some modifications, let me know what you think.

The Parliament of Ravana Assembled, Under Blessing of The Sovereign and Pontifex Maximus, Under Oath of Democracy and Fealty, Do Hereby Enact the Following

Section I
❈ 1.1 We hereby establish the regulations and accountabilities of the Ravanian intelligence agency, known as the Inter-regional Royal Intelligence Service (I.R.I.S.)
❈ 1.2 The Inter-regional Royal Intelligence Service shall fall under special joint oversight between the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Sovereign of Ravana.

Section II
❈ 2.1 IRIS shall have authority over domestic intelligence, foreign intelligence, signal intelligence and military intelligence.
❈ 2.2 IRIS shall have permission to conduct human intelligence, counter-intelligence, intelligence assessment, crime intelligence, counter-extremism, public disorder intelligence, signal intelligence, and counter-terrorism intelligence.
❈ 2.3 Domestic intelligence operations will fall under direct jurisdiction of the Sovereign.
❈ 2.4 Foreign intelligence agencies will fall under direct of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
❈ 2.5 Military intelligence will be coordinated between the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and His Majesty's Armed Forces.

Section III
❈ 3.1 The Ministry of Foreign Affairs shall be tasked with managing internal matters including promotion, operations management, recruitment, dismissals, and internal organization. The Sovereign shall participate in determining operation objectives, approving operations, and shall be consulted before all operations are conducted.

By Writ and Right, it is done unto law, this day the 6th of June, Two Thousand and Twenty, the Second Year of Glacio Revera's Reign.

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I do not endorse this since the IRIS extends over the threshold of the first bill as the original purpose of the bill was to set boundaries to the establishment and capabilities of intelligence agencies since the Odyssey failed to comply with the constitution.

Moreover, signal intelligence which is a pivotal part of information assessment (IA) has been withdrawn.

In conclusion, the bill should and is not aspired to be adopted to inaugurate any intelligence agency but to outline thresholds for forthcoming intelligence agencies.

Anura plato wrote:no i meant the youtuber that's kind of a coincidence isn't that in

Oh haha, i know a guy named something like drew who started playing nationstates before everyone else.

do you like my new flag?

Farlandiay, Glacio revera, Victoria pond, and Hovit

Empathetica wrote:do you like my new flag?

yes!

Hovit and Empathetica

Marevis wrote:I do not endorse this since the IRIS extends over the threshold of the first bill as the original purpose of the bill was to set boundaries to the establishment and capabilities of intelligence agencies since the Odyssey failed to comply with the constitution.

Moreover, signal intelligence which is a pivotal part of information assessment (IA) has been withdrawn.

In conclusion, the bill should and is not aspired to be adopted to inaugurate any intelligence agency but to outline thresholds for forthcoming intelligence agencies.

Odyssey doesn't fail to comply with the constitution, it just failed to comply with The Foreign Ministry Bill. This will pave the way for its legality. Now I understanding that the re-working isn't entirely in line with what you had proposed, but I think it has benefits over the first system. Mainly, we need to recognize that our intelligence community will be rather small. I don't expect more than 1-3 members being a part of this agency, or any intelligence agency for that matter. Given this it doesn't really make sense to have several subdivisions if they don't even have members to fill the ranks. Having one agency (IRIS) under the joint oversight of the FA Ministry and the Sovereign streamlines our intelligence operations and gives us less of a burden to fill several subdivisions and new agencies.

Glacio revera, Nerpidirk, Marevis, Anura plato, and 1 otherHovit

Phyrexon wrote:Odyssey doesn't fail to comply with the constitution, it just failed to comply with The Foreign Ministry Bill. This will pave the way for its legality. Now I understanding that the re-working isn't entirely in line with what you had proposed, but I think it has benefits over the first system. Mainly, we need to recognize that our intelligence community will be rather small. I don't expect more than 1-3 members being a part of this agency, or any intelligence agency for that matter. Given this it doesn't really make sense to have several subdivisions if they don't even have members to fill the ranks. Having one agency (IRIS) under the joint oversight of the FA Ministry and the Sovereign streamlines our intelligence operations and gives us less of a burden to fill several subdivisions and new agencies.

I agree. It would be less of an annoyance to fill so many positions.

Having failed to best us on the battlefield, the government of lasagna has attempted to ply their foolish trade in the security council, and failed quite spectacularly two times. One proposal illegal, the other failing to reach quorum, at this point the efforts against our beautiful region are embarrassing. Should they actually want peace, they will agree to our gracious terms and find it.

Retition, Farlandiay, Phyrexon, Victoria pond, and 1 otherHovit

Phyrexon wrote:Odyssey doesn't fail to comply with the constitution, it just failed to comply with The Foreign Ministry Bill. This will pave the way for its legality. Now I understanding that the re-working isn't entirely in line with what you had proposed, but I think it has benefits over the first system. Mainly, we need to recognize that our intelligence community will be rather small. I don't expect more than 1-3 members being a part of this agency or any intelligence agency for that matter. Given this, it doesn't really make sense to have several subdivisions if they don't even have members to fill the ranks. Having one agency (IRIS) under the joint oversight of the FA Ministry and the Sovereign streamlines our intelligence operations and gives us less of a burden to fill several subdivisions and new agencies.

Well confessed, that is something I am not able to dissent against but I still expect the signal intelligence part – It does not necessarily mean that we will be hacking into someone's telegram but somewhat of information assurance and linguistics instead.

Frankly, I would incline toward it to be labelled as the Royal Intelligence and Communications Office.

Glacio revera wrote:Having failed to best us on the battlefield, the government of lasagna has attempted to ply their foolish trade in the security council, and failed quite spectacularly two times. One proposal illegal, the other failing to reach quorum, at this point the efforts against our beautiful region are embarrassing. Should they actually want peace, they will agree to our gracious terms and find it.

You can do war in this?

Victoria pond

Empathetica wrote:You can do war in this?

We have been. And we have been winning.

Farlandiay, Nerpidirk, and Fal loconia

Victoria pond wrote:We have been. And we have been winning.

I dont see any options to go to war or anything

Empathetica wrote:I dont see any options to go to war or anything

It is not that simple. It is a joint psychological and physical offensive. It is an art.

Victoria pond wrote:It is not that simple. It is a joint psychological and physical offensive. It is an art.

... ok but what is it

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