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Rusheeuh wrote:

wait lmfao so basically we get banned for being anti-nazi

being anti-nazi is not against site rules, advocating for violence against any group (including) nazis is against site rules

Nipton and Greater lenoland

Rusheeuh

New Astri wrote:being anti-nazi is not against site rules, advocating for violence against any group (including) nazis is against site rules

that is veeeery interesting

New Astri wrote:Rusheeuh

This is a forum, not a chatroom. Please don't double-post. Put your entire thought into one post. You're spamming the board, and it's disruptive to everyone else.

literally i internally and externally collapsed when i read this

Ruberian wrote:Marx: Very good, very good tillage, but are the workers being paid well?
Engels: I suppose so my dear friend
Lenin: I think my cat got lost in the tillage...

Stalin: Yeah, sure. Just uh. No Ukrainians. Yeah. No Ukrainians.

Republic of panjab

New Astri wrote:my 2 cents on the nazism issue is that 'nazis aren't people' is a stupid thing to say because it relegates them to being Other, something so evil and inhuman that you forget that literally anyone can fall into hatred. nazis are very human, and it's dangerous to avoid recognizing that literally anyone can become a nazi, because that makes it very easy to forget or excuse bigotry when it's coming from people you know and like

I agree... though I do not think they should be treated as such. Nazis are people, they just should be treated as the evil they are...

Wait I have been informed that this is NS and that shouldn't continue with this unless I wish to be banned. I love NS rules :)

Rusheeuh

Nokhchi-cho wrote:Stalin: Yeah, sure. Just uh. No Ukrainians. Yeah. No Ukrainians.

Putin: annexation time mfs

Republic of panjab

The democratic republic of rohan

Thanks for the endorsemts.

Kingdom of Voidstania wrote:I agree... though I do not think they should be treated as such. Nazis are people, they just should be treated as the evil they are...

Wait I have been informed that this is NS and that shouldn't continue with this unless I wish to be banned. I love NS rules :)

which is probably why we should not be calling the inventors of untermensch untermensch ig

Rusheeuh wrote:which is probably why we should not be calling the inventors of untermensch untermensch ig

uh, you shouldn't be calling the creators of the concept of untermensch untermensch because untermensch is an evil concept and it's not progressive to apply fascist terminology to anyone under any circumstances lmfao

Socialist indian republics, Tolvon, and Greater lenoland

Very good place to live in

The nazis should not really be treated as humans. But some of them where just so happened to be alive during ww2 Germany and basically had no choice in the matter of being a nazi or not. Some of the Germans helped the Jews but when they got caught they where executed. They where also executed if they where against the idea of the nazi party. Only the ones whom truly supported toothbrush mustache guy should not be treated as a human

Very good place to live in wrote:The nazis should not really be treated as humans. But some of them where just so happened to be alive during ww2 Germany and basically had no choice in the matter of being a nazi or not. Some of the Germans helped the Jews but when they got caught they where executed. They where also executed if they where against the idea of the nazi party. Only the ones whom truly supported toothbrush mustache guy should not be treated as a human

multiple things here:
1. 'treated as humans' is vague--what do you actually mean by that phrase?
2. it is always a choice whether or not to be a bigot, and the rise of nazis to power was only so successful because very few goyim stood up for jewish people at any point where it mattered. the painting of goyim who were complicit in antisemitism as markedly innocent is unacceptable. complacency does not make someone innocent, it makes them a facilitator of oppression.
3. this might just be me but i think it's kind of bizarre how many people use cutesy euphemisms like "toothbrush mustache guy" when discussing relatively recent historical atrocities. very much tone-deaf.

Socialist indian republics and Greater lenoland

Very good place to live in

I don’t really like saying their name, also I think it might get me banned

New Astri wrote:multiple things here:
1. 'treated as humans' is vague--what do you actually mean by that phrase?
2. it is always a choice whether or not to be a bigot, and the rise of nazis to power was only so successful because very few goyim stood up for jewish people at any point where it mattered. the painting of goyim who were complicit in antisemitism as markedly innocent is unacceptable. complacency does not make someone innocent, it makes them a facilitator of oppression.
3. this might just be me but i think it's kind of bizarre how many people use cutesy euphemisms like "toothbrush mustache guy" when discussing relatively recent historical atrocities. very much tone-deaf.

I am not very informed on this topic so I really should not have said anything. I just felt like I had to say something. Sorry

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Very good place to live in wrote:I don’t really like saying their name, also I think it might get me banned I am not very informed on this topic so I really should not have said anything. I just felt like I had to say something. Sorry

it would...not get you banned to say the word hitler, no? i'm not sure why it would. i catch the vibes that yr pretty young so i apologize if i came off as intimidating there, but to be clear, talking about political subjects Is important to learn more about them. that said, if you don't know much about a topic but would like to learn, you could always try asking questions.

Keaben, Hanau ho hawaii, Greater lenoland, and Very good place to live in

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New flag, I'd like some RMB opinions on this one

New stalinsburg wrote:*snip*

Hmm. In what respect? Be aware that fascists and their sympathizers generally aren't very welcome here.

Socialist indian republics and Nipton

New stalinsburg wrote:-supressed post saying "hitler good"-

the pest destroying germany at that time was the toothbrush mustache guy (and his elite)
also everyone here agrees the victims of the Holocaust (Jewish, Romani, Polish, etc) should have human rights

Socialist indian republics and Desert colony

Socialist indian republics

Socialist Heronia wrote:New flag, I'd like some RMB opinions on this one

Hmm. In what respect? Be aware that fascists and their sympathizers generally aren't very welcome here.

I like the flag

Phinxia

Ight lads

New Astri liked the original post for the playlist idea so:
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/10XkqCK01wiXh00UYPrahc?si=z3Oo8lx3TxO3-QY8FpsIyg&pt=abcec51b60ccecb2ab848334725a2465
If you go above 100 songs I will remove however many are necessary (I’ll raise the limit eventually) and I’ll repost this when I get back from school today
Add whatever music you like so long as it’s not fascist propaganda or the like
Note: the link takes you to a search browser version of Spotify but still on your account so like the playlist then find it in your library on the app

Greater lenoland

New Astri wrote:multiple things here:
1. 'treated as humans' is vague--what do you actually mean by that phrase?
2. it is always a choice whether or not to be a bigot, and the rise of nazis to power was only so successful because very few goyim stood up for jewish people at any point where it mattered. the painting of goyim who were complicit in antisemitism as markedly innocent is unacceptable. complacency does not make someone innocent, it makes them a facilitator of oppression.
3. this might just be me but i think it's kind of bizarre how many people use cutesy euphemisms like "toothbrush mustache guy" when discussing relatively recent historical atrocities. very much tone-deaf.

I just want to mention that the German people were manipulated. If not for the Weimar Republic, Hitler never would've got into power. He promised everything the weakened Germany needed, but when they realised he wasn't as he seemed, it was already too late. I understand complacency isn't exactly a good thing, but I think denouncing every German alive during the Third Reich isn't exactly fair. There was no way to stand against Hitler and the Nazi Party. What would you do in that situation?

Also for the playlist can everyone who joins in clarify what their Spotify name is? I’m RB but you could probably guess that since I’m the owner

Greater lenoland

Speaking of Spotify:
I don't use Spotify: I usually listen to whatever I have on my computer via Groove Music (great player for downloaded music).
Anyways, what does the Bloc use for music other than Spotify?

Greater lenoland

New Astri wrote:because very few goyim stood up for jewish people

Southwest America wrote:Jewish people should have human rights

gentle reminder that 6 million of the holocaust victims were jewish and 11 million were not jewish. other european ethnic groups (including romani, serbs and poles), jehovahs witnesses and freemasons, LGBT people, disabled people, prisoners of war and political prisoners were included in their "purge".

the targeting of all of these groups is a huge part of n*zism and neon*zism - its both the signs we should be watching for in people and governments, and the terrible outcome we need to make sure doesnt happen.

Southwest America wrote:Speaking of Spotify:
I don't use Spotify: I usually listen to whatever I have on my computer via Groove Music (great player for downloaded music).
Anyways, what does the Bloc use for music other than Spotify?

"Groove Music" and "great" do not belong in the same sentence. VLC Media Player would be better lol
I hate proprietary Microsoft software

Crimson Tree wrote:I just want to mention that the German people were manipulated. If not for the Weimar Republic, Hitler never would've got into power. He promised everything the weakened Germany needed, but when they realised he wasn't as he seemed, it was already too late. I understand complacency isn't exactly a good thing, but I think denouncing every German alive during the Third Reich isn't exactly fair. There was no way to stand against Hitler and the Nazi Party. What would you do in that situation?

the nazis appealed to people by pinning societal issues they were concerned with on a vulnerable minority. yes, fascist regimes are highly manipulative. but this narrative being pushed here where german citizens during the rise of nazism were innocently tripping into it instead of willingly exercising bigotry against millions of scapegoated minorities is both ahistorical and harmful. what would i do in that situation? i'd probably be killed, given that i'm jewish, gay, gender-nonconforming, and disabled. fascist regimes, both past and present, are carried forward by privileged majority groups who actively benefit from the marginalization of others and do not step up to stop the oppression at any point. and then during retrospectives, future majority groups whitewash the details to strip people who were complicit in violent bigotry of any accountability or judgment for what they enabled. there are many things that should be mourned about the holocaust--privileged groups who benefited from it and facilitated it being given the slightest bit of negative judgment by present-day minorities isn't one of them.

Greater lenoland wrote:gentle reminder that 6 million of the holocaust victims were jewish and 11 million were not jewish. other european ethnic groups (including romani, serbs and poles), jehovahs witnesses and freemasons, LGBT people, disabled people, prisoners of war and political prisoners were included in their "purge".

the targeting of all of these groups is a huge part of n*zism and neon*zism - its both the signs we should be watching for in people and governments, and the terrible outcome we need to make sure doesnt happen.

this is inaccurate--11 million is the total estimated death count, including 6 million jewish people. the amount of non-jewish people killed was about 5 million, not 11 million. as for why i specified jewish people, i was responding to a post that was talking about jewish people specifically.

Greatunion of soviet socialist republics and Feyrisshire

New Astri wrote:the nazis appealed to people by pinning societal issues they were concerned with on a vulnerable minority. yes, fascist regimes are highly manipulative. but this narrative being pushed here where german citizens during the rise of nazism were innocently tripping into it instead of willingly exercising bigotry against millions of scapegoated minorities is both ahistorical and harmful. what would i do in that situation? i'd probably be killed, given that i'm jewish, gay, gender-nonconforming, and disabled. fascist regimes, both past and present, are carried forward by privileged majority groups who actively benefit from the marginalization of others and do not step up to stop the oppression at any point. and then during retrospectives, future majority groups whitewash the details to strip people who were complicit in violent bigotry of any accountability or judgment for what they enabled. there are many things that should be mourned about the holocaust--privileged groups who benefited from it and facilitated it being given the slightest bit of negative judgment by present-day minorities isn't one of them.

this is inaccurate--11 million is the total estimated death count, including 6 million jewish people. the amount of non-jewish people killed was about 5 million, not 11 million. as for why i specified jewish people, i was responding to a post that was talking about jewish people specifically.

My point was a lot of German people didn't support Hitler and I'd feel uncomfortable labelling those people with the rest of the Nazis.

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