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New Jaedonstan wrote:We can, if we have dedicated and willing people, recreate the bot manually.

I find this idea hilarious. You are obviously not familiar at all with the bot, being permanently absent offsite, but let me demonstrate why the quoted statement makes no sense. Take a look at the regional history page. See the low point on Feb 8? That is the day the recruitment system started. See the all-time high point in April? That is around when people stopped using it. Now look at the current population, maintained by good ol' stamps. The bot and dedicated players are not mutually exclusive options. Rather, they complement each other. This region's population has stagnated and influence has actually dropped over the last eight months, which is frankly embarrassing and shows that you are not employing the bot or player dedication.

(Also, I put months and months of work into that bot for the expressly-stated reason that it would carry much of the workload when I retired. It genuinely angers me how many AA residents have flippantly dismissed it or outright refused to use it, when that effort was all for their sake. Every time they do so, they are giving me the finger, and I did nothing to deserve that.)

I got kicked out for being facsist wrote:I voted no because I only heard bad things about it.

This, on the other hand, is not hilarious. How anyone could say that so shamelessly is beyond me.

Look, people, the AA is a cooperative effort. It was designed to provide all the tools and opportunities you could ever want, from endorsement and recruitment technology, to outlets for players interested in R/D and diplomatic gameplay, to inter-regional exchanges of ideas and activity, to improved efficiency through resource-sharing. So far, it has done so. However, it was not designed to actively do things for you. I can see why you might think that--you got spoiled, because for a long time I was doing so much work, and you conflated my work with that of the AA as an organization. When I stopped playing, it did not take long for you to start asking why the AA was no longer serving you. That is not the way it was supposed to be, though. The AA requires people to care and contribute effort in order to function, just like CK itself. It needs give and take.

Think about it, Conch Kingdom. Read some dispatches--yes, I know there are a lot of them--and get informed about the system we have here, then cast your judgments. Have a little faith, too. Believe it or not, I have many years of experience building regions, and I agonized over every decision I made to strengthen this one in the long term. Finally, keep an open mind. Perhaps you see no need for a military right here and now, but we can thank the JTF for almost all our foreign allies and connections (connections that decay with each day we neglect them). Perhaps you see no need for the AA Policies, but without them this region would be flooded with puppets and endorsement freedom would have been long ago sacrificed for security, losing a bit of what makes it unique. If you look for positives, they are not hard to find.

Thanks for reading, and good night.

Conch kingdom
Founder, Conch Kingdom
August
Founder, Augustin Alliance

Conch kingdom wrote:-snip-

Yeah, see, I went off of what I heard from various people and assumed it was something similar to an API or something like that. As for the other points, I have absolutely no control over anything anymore, so I can't effect very much of a change. If I could, I most likely would use the things you provide or be actually able to say I recruit. At this juncture, I am powerless to do more than speak and influence with words.

I believe the second point is mostly the fault of me and some of the others. Let's rectify that shall we?

The AA has provided us with many things to benefit our region. Many of the points that August made are valid and more than just cause to reconsider your standpoint about the issue.

However, that being said, I find it disturbing that it took this long for any of our issues to be addressed by anyone. And the fact that, after we did try and leave, our region got trash talked by AAdministration and threatened to be invaded if we tried again, that's shocks me, especially since there has been no attempt to publicly (at least, not that I have been told, clearly not somewhere everyone can see) to mend any of the broken ties. That's disappoints me. I thought that, at the very least, the AAdministration would attempt to smooth things over as soon as the vote failed so that we wouldn't try again, but the best we got was people trash talking us (and me behind my back, which no only know because someone told me, but that's beside the point) and threatening us and then some weeks later, a call for changes that most likely will never happen, especially since it was not publicly addressed to the people of Conch Kingdom as a whole in the first place.

No one is trying to destroy what you've created, August. Well, I'm not. But I don't think your vision for the AA was for it to become a place where people actively don't want to be anymore. The people have, majority wise, made it clear they are unhappy with the current AAdministration and how it is running things. Some of us feel, me included, that there needs to be some fundamental change to the roster or at least a change of heart. I have heard things from my friends in the government here that would never have happened in the old days that I knew. Those things, honestly, never would have happened when founders active and I think you need to reconsider who is in charge, if they, as a group, carry out your vision, and have the ability to do so without alienating a quarter of their playerbase. If I could do something, I would. And I have. But this is so far out of my hands and I can't do anything but speak.

Newarizona and Haimato

I got kicked out for being facsist

Supero Omnia wrote:Did you remember S.M.O.G.?

I... don’t think that has anything to do with what I said...

Conch kingdom wrote:Wow, that’s a lot of words

I guess I did only listen to what other people have to say about it, and I didn’t read any of the dispatches or anything like that. I guess I should look more into something before voting on it.

The third british empire

I got kicked out for being facsist, Indeed it is a lot of words. Many words that hold true when you look at it. But on the other side looking at NJs view that it's where nobody actively wants to be and be that as it may the vote did fail. However, New Jaedonstan, I am curious as to the full extent of this threatening behaviour as I only knew bits and pieces. Now though, it may be crucial to know.

Haimato

The third british empire wrote:I got kicked out for being facsist, Indeed it is a lot of words. Many words that hold true when you look at it. But on the other side looking at NJs view that it's where nobody actively wants to be and be that as it may the vote did fail. However, New Jaedonstan, I am curious as to the full extent of this threatening behaviour as I only knew bits and pieces. Now though, it may be crucial to know.

There were some very thinly veiled threats back a ways. I'll see if I still have the screenshots.

Haimato

The third british empire

New Jaedonstan wrote:There were some very thinly veiled threats back a ways. I'll see if I still have the screenshots.

Thank you.

New Jaedonstan and Haimato

While I realize dealing with WA stuff is not my job anymore...

Current 10 Least Endorsed WA Members

Euskaufkjalla
Sialked
The york islands
Dalesford
Siberian wastelands
Cheyland
Obergrufeen
Nylon
Thessaloni
Colaco

Y'all should endorse them. And everyone else on this list: page=list_nations/region=conch_kingdom?censusid=66
I never thought I'd see CK fall out of the top 10 for WA Endorsements. We sat in the top 7 for so long, and even took #1 for a time. That "#12" is sad. Get cracking with those endorsements, people!

Supero Omnia, New Jaedonstan, Haimato, The third british empire, and 2 othersFree Azell, and Ahrida

hello everyone I’m back! I had to leave a while because of school.

Tulov, Balan Bar, New Jaedonstan, Haimato, and 2 othersThe third british empire, and Ahrida

The third british empire wrote:However, New Jaedonstan, I am curious as to the full extent of this threatening behaviour as I only knew bits and pieces. Now though, it may be crucial to know.

There were a few bits and pieces on the discord joking around and "threatening" an invasion of CK. Shockingly, I believe Tovakia was involved in those. I didn't consider them credible threats at all.

This is it:
https://i.gyazo.com/c55a209993f78b482230db1e1c812c1a.jpg (discord names apart from myself removed to avoid doxxing of discords, blue/orange logo is Grater Tovakia)

As for outside discord threats... I'm not involved in that. And I'm too pissed off at the government right now to bother getting involved in that.

New Jaedonstan, Haimato, and Ahrida

Supero Omnia wrote:There were a few bits and pieces on the discord joking around and "threatening" an invasion of CK. Shockingly, I believe Tovakia was involved in those. I didn't consider them credible threats at all.

This is it:
https://i.gyazo.com/c55a209993f78b482230db1e1c812c1a.jpg (discord names apart from myself removed to avoid doxxing of discords, blue/orange logo is Grater Tovakia)

As for outside discord threats... I'm not involved in that. And I'm too pissed off at the government right now to bother getting involved in that.

That's what I was looking for. I knew I had it somewhere, I just couldn't remember where. Thanks. As for whether credible or not, joking or not, such things should never, ever be joked abour, especially in this situation. And considering that there was some... let's say, strategically placed and ambiguously motivated endorsing going on between a few of the AA supporting nations during the actual vote itself. that all points to a rather unscrupulous attempt or at least plan to use the JTF or other people to put CK under military rule.

Haimato and Ahrida

I finally have my PC back up & running, so I should be more active then I was over the previous few months.

Bohseon, Tulov, Balan Bar, New Jaedonstan, and 3 othersHaimato, I got kicked out for being facsist, and Ahrida

The third british empire

Supero Omnia wrote:Thank you, for this information. I have read the messages now.

I was not aware it was to this extent, but now I have seen it I am not thrilled about it. Potentially this will have to be brought to a head in the meeting.

New Jaedonstan, Haimato, and Ahrida

The third british empire wrote:I was not aware it was to this extent, but now I have seen it I am not thrilled about it. Potentially this will have to be brought to a head in the meeting.

And now you see why I'm not happy with the lackadaisical response of the AAdministration about pursuing these issues in the first place. And now I have even less faith that anything will be done, especially the things that need to be done.

Ahrida

Oh, wow.

If not for college, I’d suspect I’d have put up something addressing this by now.

But y’all have it covered, and my interest out here has been flagging since before the referendum was even thought of.

New Jaedonstan and Ahrida

The third british empire

New Jaedonstan wrote:And now you see why I'm not happy with the lackadaisical response of the AAdministration about pursuing these issues in the first place. And now I have even less faith that anything will be done, especially the things that need to be done.

Well ultimately we will do what we can on our end as the regional government, but the rest is up to them.

New Jaedonstan and Ahrida

The third british empire wrote:Well ultimately we will do what we can on our end as the regional government, but the rest is up to them.

Well, that's the whole point of the independence movement, no? That we have self determination and don't have to wait around for other people to make choices that will affect our future?

Ahrida

Post by Receding economy suppressed by Haimato.

Receding economy

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I got kicked out for being facsist

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Doesn't this count as spam?

Newarizona wrote:Doesn't this count as spam?

Yes. Yes it does. Receding economy I don't want to be a spoilsport but please refrain from sending messages that can be seen as spammy or are entirely unnecessary for conversation. Thank you

New Jaedonstan and Receding economy

Hello!

Ahrida

Geska wrote:Hello!

Heya! Welcome to the region and if you have any questions feel free to ask. I'm sure there will be someone somewhere who can answer any questions you have if I don't :p
*Offers a plate of Conch-mellows*

New Jaedonstan and Ahrida

Geska wrote:Hello!

Welcome to the region aswell i hope you have a very pleasant stay

Ps- Haimato is our cookie poisoner i heard.

Ahrida wrote:Welcome to the region aswell i hope you have a very pleasant stay

Ps- Haimato is our cookie poisoner i heard.

In my defense I haven't done so in over a year

Geska wrote:Hello!

Welcome to the region!

Newarizona wrote:I finally have my PC back up & running, so I should be more active then I was over the previous few months.

Well then, maybe not, because my pc refuses to connect to the internet...

New Jaedonstan, Haimato, and I got kicked out for being facsist

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