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Brazika wrote:Are you busy, guys? 😖

drawing for a children's book illustration contest lmao

Atsuria and Imperial kratos

The cumbrian state

Brazika wrote:Are you busy, guys? 😖

Painting some Blood Angels RN for an upcoming wargaming contest at the end of this year. They are red variants of these guys

https://youtu.be/7jvJ7icKMtc

Hopefully one day I get to paint a Warlord Titan - it has a fuc*ing gothic cathedral as it's main body

Atsuria and Imperial kratos

My deepest thoughts for the Imperial Japanese soldiers who defended their homeland till the very end at Okinawa, 75 years ago. Only 7 000 out of the 100 000 Japanese soldiers fighting there were captured. 天皇陛下万歳 !!

P0rtvgal, Atsuria, and Greater-appalachia

Merther wrote:My deepest thoughts for the Imperial Japanese soldiers who defended their homeland till the very end at Okinawa, 75 years ago. Only 7 000 out of the 100 000 Japanese soldiers fighting there were captured. 天皇陛下万歳 !!

The vile cretins sent their own women and children over the cliffs. I have no sympathy for such gutless vermin.

Atsuria and Imperial kratos

Fashmaster wrote:The vile cretins sent their own women and children over the cliffs. I have no sympathy for such gutless vermin.

sauce

Merther

P0rtvgal wrote:sauce

Apologies. I was under the impression the IJA's heinous crimes throughout the war were common knowledge. I can understand how they might not be for a European, as the Pacific Theater was largely an American endeavor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Okinawa#Civilian_losses,_suicides,_and_atrocities

Japan remains as one of the most brutal of participants in the war. It is generally accepted that the numerous atrocities committed by the Imperial Japanese Army greatly surpass the crimes committed by any other entity, including the German Wehrmacht and the Soviet Red Army. Perhaps forebodingly this trend did not even begin until the 1930s, just as the campaigns in the East were beginning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes#Crimes

I find Unit 731 in particular to be the most disturbing. There is also the infamous Rape of Nanking.

P0rtvgal, Atsuria, Chalybea, The cumbrian state, and 1 otherImperial kratos

I hope the good man Ferroviaire has not forgotten about NS or else we might just need yet another new WA-minister in the upcoming weeks. It is unfortunate to see inactivity on his part considering how well and solidly he started of his career.

Imperial kratos

Atsuria wrote:I hope the good man Ferroviaire has not forgotten about NS or else we might just need yet another new WA-minister in the upcoming weeks. It is unfortunate to see inactivity on his part considering how well and solidly he started of his career.

he is busy with personal affairs and will resume full activity after the 17th July

Atsuria and Imperial kratos

Fashmaster wrote:Apologies. I was under the impression the IJA's heinous crimes throughout the war were common knowledge. I can understand how they might not be for a European, as the Pacific Theater was largely an American endeavor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Okinawa#Civilian_losses,_suicides,_and_atrocities

Japan remains as one of the most brutal of participants in the war. It is generally accepted that the numerous atrocities committed by the Imperial Japanese Army greatly surpass the crimes committed by any other entity, including the German Wehrmacht and the Soviet Red Army. Perhaps forebodingly this trend did not even begin until the 1930s, just as the campaigns in the East were beginning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes#Crimes

I find Unit 731 in particular to be the most disturbing. There is also the infamous Rape of Nanking.

I don't blame German soldiers for the crimes they were ordered to commit under their superior officer's leadership. We all know what happens if you refuse to follow orders. I do not condone raping, pillaging & co; and anyone who commits such crimes should be shot on the post imo, but after all it's really just History repeating itself over and over again. I dare you to point at a nation whose people have never commited war crimes, or worse.

There's no justice in war.

Chalybea and Imperial kratos

nation=merther/detail=factbook/id=1396382

Read this and you may or may not learn something today

Imperial kratos

Merther wrote:I don't blame German soldiers for the crimes they were ordered to commit under their superior officer's leadership. We all know what happens if you refuse to follow orders. I do not condone raping, pillaging & co; and anyone who commits such crimes should be shot on the post imo, but after all it's really just History repeating itself over and over again. I dare you to point at a nation whose people have never commited war crimes, or worse.

There's no justice in war.

Brother, I don't know about you, but if my commanding officer ordered me to rape a woman or be shot for treason I would rather go to my grave a moral, dignified man than live a life as a cowardly rapist. Go before your god and ask him if he can forgive your sins under the pretense of "just following orders". See if he has mercy for you.

Obedience is good; blind obedience is not. Blind obedience has been the downfall of many, including the historical Fascist movements. We cannot commit their mistakes lest we join them in obliteration.

Atsuria, Chalybea, The cumbrian state, and Imperial kratos

Fashmaster wrote:Brother, I don't know about you, but if my commanding officer ordered me to rape a woman or be shot for treason I would rather go to my grave a moral, dignified man than live a life as a cowardly rapist. Go before your god and ask him if he can forgive your sins under the pretense of "just following orders". See if he has mercy for you.

Obedience is good; blind obedience is not. Blind obedience has been the downfall of many, including the historical Fascist movements. We cannot commit their mistakes lest we join them in obliteration.

Indeed, you do not know about me.

But my God is also why I understand the weakness of the flesh. And my God will have mercy. Just as our Lord on the Cross forgave those who nailed his hands on the cold hard wood. It takes more strength to forgive and understand than it does to obey, disobei, or hate.

Learn from my merciful God. And weigh your words.

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I would agree with Fash, but Merther is not wrong, many people have done horrible things, and have been forgiven by God, since they place their faith in God. The Japs did horrible things in the Pacific, just as all the Europeans did in the western theater, we still honor them, and I would say that honoring the Japenese is not a crime. However, they were not defending their homeland, they were defending conquests for the most part. Most of the war was fought over American protectorates, and "colonies". I too would rather be shot then rape someone, but if I had a lapse in moral fortitude, I could still be redeemed by God, there is nothing I can do that He can not forgive. But Fash, if you die, moral according to this world, or immoral, you will go to the same place if you do not repent of all the sin that you have committed in your life. Every time you look at a girl in the wrong way, or become angry at a person, you have sinned, and fallen short of the standard that God has laid out for us. It is impossible to never worship an idol, never lie, never steal, never covet, never disobey your parents. If you ever do any of this, even once, you have failed in the eyes of God. However, He sent a savior for us, who was the perfect man, who never did any of the above, and he did for us, so we could be with the Father in Heaven. Our religion is one of hope, not of legality, the only thing you have to do is believe in Jesus Christ, and be saved. This is the good news, and (Without sounding corny, or condescending,) I will pray that God will change your heart, and everyone in this region who has not turned to God.

Merther and New empire of hispanyo

Fashmaster

I, too, grew up under the Cross. But I find passiveness within the halls of it's churches.

Mercy? Mercy is for those that have earned it. For those who have taken up arms against their brothers, but knew it wise to lay them down and surrender. For those who have erred but sought forgiveness. But the unrepentant should be put to the sword, not extended an olive branch. I find the Church often shirks at the former in favor of notions of peace and love. I do not believe a god of peace and love can equally be a god of strength and justice. This is contrary to me.

Merther, New empire of hispanyo, and Imperial kratos

Fashmaster wrote:I do not believe a god of peace and love can equally be a god of strength and justice. This is contrary to me.

Yet He rules.

Greater-appalachia, New empire of hispanyo, and Imperial kratos

Imperial kratos

Fashmaster wrote:I, too, grew up under the Cross. But I find passiveness within the halls of it's churches.

Mercy? Mercy is for those that have earned it. For those who have taken up arms against their brothers, but knew it wise to lay them down and surrender. For those who have erred but sought forgiveness. But the unrepentant should be put to the sword, not extended an olive branch. I find the Church often shirks at the former in favor of notions of peace and love. I do not believe a god of peace and love can equally be a god of strength and justice. This is contrary to me.

The passiveness of the Church can be seen in all aspects of life, when people do not see something important, and do not work hard for their goal. By definition, mercy is not giving someone what they deserve. No one can earn what they do not deserve. The people who do turn away only do so because they have been given mercy and grace, for no one turns away from sin of his own accord. God has to change the hearts of the sinners, they do not earn mercy. The unrepentant are simply those who have not turned to Christ, or those who will not turn to Christ. It is not within our power to know which is which, so we should treat others as human beings, made in the image of God. This is how you convert, not at gunpoint, or on the edge of a sword. Not even arguments can change hearts if God does not move them to repent. I can argue with you all day, and show you all the points in the world, but unless God changes your heart, there is nothing I can do, only hope that He does. But I agree with you, the Church has been too lenient with heresy, and corruption. The Reformers fought to the death for their beliefs, and nothing like that is seen today. God is perfect, we are imperfect, no human can be perfectly just, and full of love. However, God can be, He balances the need to right the wrongs that we do to Him every day, and the ability to redeem us. Jesus satisfies the need for His just wrath, and shows God's love for us.

Greater-appalachia

Fashmaster wrote:I, too, grew up under the Cross. But I find passiveness within the halls of it's churches.

Mercy? Mercy is for those that have earned it. For those who have taken up arms against their brothers, but knew it wise to lay them down and surrender. For those who have erred but sought forgiveness. But the unrepentant should be put to the sword, not extended an olive branch. I find the Church often shirks at the former in favor of notions of peace and love. I do not believe a god of peace and love can equally be a god of strength and justice. This is contrary to me.

A good quote from Teddy Roosevelt applies to this situation quite nicely: "Speak softly and carry a big stick"

Merther, New empire of hispanyo, and Imperial kratos

New empire of hispanyo

Merther wrote:Yet He rules.

Indeed.

Merther

P0rtvgal wrote:he is busy with personal affairs and will resume full activity after the 17th July

Yes, I remember now he did mention to me something about studying taking up his time.

Very well. I suppose I will have to take up some of his responsibilities in the meantime.

Imperial kratos

The cumbrian state wrote:Painting some Blood Angels RN for an upcoming wargaming contest at the end of this year. They are red variants of these guys

https://youtu.be/7jvJ7icKMtc

Hopefully one day I get to paint a Warlord Titan - it has a fuc*ing gothic cathedral as it's main body

My friend you must have an accurate eye, a steady hand and strong patience.

I used to build models of WW2 fighter & bomber planes when I was a bit younger. Got tired with it eventually and ended up donating the collection and the remaining models yet-to-be built to my fraternal nephew.

I also did stamp collecting, though that one has been on a pause for some time now.

P0rtvgal, The cumbrian state, and Imperial kratos

P0rtvgal, Chalybea, Brazika, Greater-appalachia, and 2 othersImperial kratos, and Marperking

Also since there was talk about the American Civilizations if you're interested in their science & technology (or the history of science & technology in general) more I suggest you find and read a book by James. E. McClellan called "Science and Technology in World History: an introduction". He covers a timespan from early men and paleolithic/neolithic cultures to the present day and while the main focus is on European developments, he also goes around the world to examine science & technology in the Islamic World, China, India, The Americas. It is not just a neutral overview of anything like that, his main point throughout the book is that technology as a field largely developed independently throughout history separate from science and that when these two interacted it usually was the other way around that technology inspired science, like how alchemy had roots in technological practices of metallurgy. Basically, he is arguing against a traditional view that technology was "applied science". And that applied science the way we know it only properly emerged during the 1800's.

It is not a perfect history book (but a good and educative read anyway) and from the past decade (the version I read 2006 if I recall correctly), he -for instance- ignores Nikola Tesla out of the picture completely when discussing the electrification of the world which I hate and goes on to boldly claim that Ancient Egypt had zero theoretical philosophy or theoretical thinking in general, that it was all focused on the practical & useful of Mathematics, Metallurgy/Alchemy, Astronomy/Astrology, Medicine etc. (The main sciences consistently supported & patronaged by rulers across different Empires of the world) and that the tradition of theoretical/abstract science in the form of Philosophy (and its sub-fields) only emerged with independent Greek thinkers without state patronage...(and from there was inherited by the Romans and by medieval Europe from the 10th/11th century onwards in-unison with the fast rise of the Universitas.

(When in Truth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_philosophy

Anyway, If any of you are in university right now you can access it online through various online academic depositories through your university account/ID. (For example Ebook central: https://ebookcentral.proquest.com/auth/lib/hec-ebooks/login.action)

If not you'll have to get a physical copy from a library or smth.

P0rtvgal, The cumbrian state, and Imperial kratos

The cumbrian state

Atsuria wrote:My friend you must have an accurate eye, a steady hand and strong patience.

I used to build models of WW2 fighter & bomber planes when I was a bit younger. Got tired with it eventually and ended up donating the collection and the remaining models yet-to-be built to my fraternal nephew.

I also did stamp collecting, though that one has been on a pause for some time now.

Each miniature can take hours to days to paint; applying bases, shades; giving ornaments a gleam and shine etc

However once each one is complete, you get a sense of pride like no other.

Greater-appalachia, Imperial kratos, and Marperking

Atsuria what I said was a way of speaking. Not necessary you use a gun to be better than your enemy. What I meant is: If your enemy gave you something, return it even more strongly. But I understood your thinking.

Atsuria and Imperial kratos

On behalf of the Fifth Empire most warm welcomes to the region to our new arrivals Marperking and Vergiss! We are very glad to receive you as new members, especially in this time when others less active are moving on to places away from us. Hopefully though, some of them will return in times of future.

You should have received the automatic welcome telegram which should help you orient to your new surroundings. Nevertheless, if you have any questions about anything, concerns, hopes etc. don't be afraid to contact Brazika or myself.

P0rtvgal, Chalybea, Greater-appalachia, and Imperial kratos

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