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A new poll has been created for the vote of the 2022 Amendment Amendment! All WA member nations have three days if they wish to cast their votes! (Although everyone is welcome to contribute if they wish~)

page=poll/p=188155

P.S. sorry for the double-post

Daarwyrth, Ruinenlust, Palos heights, York Zionia, and 1 otherGreat julunaphra

Hello!!!!!

Jutsa, Ruinenlust, Palos heights, Zerphen, and 1 otherGreat julunaphra

Hiya!

Are LGBTQIA+ people in general and trans people in particular welcome here?

Frieden-und Freudenland, Jutsa, Daarwyrth, Ruinenlust, and 8 othersUan aa Boa, Palos heights, Canaltia, Northern Wood, Zerphen, Nation of ecologists, Great julunaphra, and Pinkacre

I'm provisionally okay with this amendment. I would pose how we track this considering how easily it is to miss things on the RMB.

Jutsa, Ruinenlust, Uan aa Boa, Palos heights, and 3 othersZerphen, York Zionia, and Great julunaphra

Palos heights

The Cypher Nine wrote:I'm provisionally okay with this amendment. I would pose how we track this considering how easily it is to miss things on the RMB.

Just throw a link to the post in the world factbook entry and call it a day, or have a poll directing peoples attention to it

Jutsa, Ownzone, Ruinenlust, Uan aa Boa, and 2 othersYork Zionia, and Great julunaphra

Palos heights wrote:Just throw a link to the post in the world factbook entry and call it a day, or have a poll directing peoples attention to it

PALOS has returned!!! :-D

Pinkacre wrote:Hello!!!!!

Hello Pinkacre! Welcome to Forest!

Jambalaya wrote:Hiya!
Are LGBTQIA+ people in general and trans people in particular welcome here?

Hello Jambalaya! Welcome to Forest! Forest is very welcoming of LGBT+ people, and many of us are part of that community ourselves in one way or another, or consider ourselves to be allies. I myself am part of the "G" subgroup, haha. :-)

Frieden-und Freudenland, Jutsa, Ownzone, Daarwyrth, and 9 othersUan aa Boa, Palos heights, Northern Wood, Zerphen, Nation of ecologists, Difinbelk, York Zionia, Jambalaya, and Great julunaphra

Jambalaya wrote:Hiya!

Are LGBTQIA+ people in general and trans people in particular welcome here?

Quite like Ruinenlust said, Forest is very welcoming of the LGBTQIA+ community here! And many of our members are indeed part of the community themselves (yours truly included, also representing the G letter) :)

Frieden-und Freudenland, Jutsa, Ruinenlust, Northern Wood, and 6 othersZerphen, Nation of ecologists, Difinbelk, York Zionia, Jambalaya, and Great julunaphra

Daarwyrth wrote:Quite like Ruinenlust said, Forest is very welcoming of the LGBTQIA+ community here! And many of our members are indeed part of the community themselves (yours truly included, also representing the G letter) :)

A(sexual) chiming in

Frieden-und Freudenland, Jutsa, Daarwyrth, Ruinenlust, and 5 othersUan aa Boa, Northern Wood, Zerphen, Nation of ecologists, and Great julunaphra

The man, the myth, the legend.....he has returned from making the world a better place.....at least in his eyes. How have you been?

Palos heights i'm trying to identify the source of your new flag. I feel like I have seen it before but maybe I have been looking at too many Roelant Savery or Hieronymus Bosch paintings that that shade of "red" is starting to look familiar.

Welcome back, Palos heights!

Ownzone, Daarwyrth, Ruinenlust, Uan aa Boa, and 3 othersNorthern Wood, York Zionia, and Great julunaphra

Palos heights is back
In the region of Forest.
I am elated.

Isbjorn Maerenne Bava Paerani wrote:Palos heights is back
In the region of Forest.
I am elated.

Do you always speak
like haiku - in syllables
five seven five? Odd.

Frieden-und Freudenland wrote:Do you always speak
like haiku - in syllables
five seven five? Odd.

Only for the old
Forest Keeper — a very
Special occasion.

I just gained 10 banners all at once? I assume they must have added some new ones...

Siornor, Frieden-und Freudenland, Jutsa, Daarwyrth, and 4 othersRuinenlust, Northern Wood, York Zionia, and Great julunaphra

ya, same thing happened with me. Weird

On the (nationstates) news it said that they added new banners

Siornor, Frieden-und Freudenland, Jutsa, Ruinenlust, and 2 othersNorthern Wood, and Great julunaphra

Great julunaphra

i just gained 3 lolz one of them being for a strong basketweaving industry or something

Glory days....I am on 19 added and loads more to hunt for. I hope they will add even more. Great, great, great addition.

EDIT: here is an idea. Maybe except for an issue writing contest they could also have a (yearly) banner contest!?

Ownzone wrote:Glory days....I am on 19 added and loads more to hunt for. I hope they will add even more. Great, great, great addition.

EDIT: here is an idea. Maybe except for an issue writing contest they could also have a (yearly) banner contest!?

Wow so we take pictures and the winning picture(s) would be made into banners? Now that's what I call a high-quality proposal right there!

Ownzone wrote:Glory days....I am on 19 added and loads more to hunt for. I hope they will add even more. Great, great, great addition.

EDIT: here is an idea. Maybe except for an issue writing contest they could also have a (yearly) banner contest!?

Agreed. I added 20 and definitely see others I'm interested in. Great add indeed!

Furilisca wrote:On the (nationstates) news it said that they added new banners

new feral children banner goes so hard

Siornor wrote:new feral children banner goes so hard

W H A T

Hello! I've been rolling around NS for a good while now and decided to settle in Forest. Excited to be here! :)

Possible controversial opinion:

Pro life is recognition of two axioms:

1) human life has intrinsic value, and you need a a damn good reason to end it.
2) human life begins at an earlier date than abortions are allowed.

I'm broadly of this opinion. I recognise that a woman's bodily autonomy is important and that there are sociological risks to infringing on that. However I also feel that a humans right not to have its life ended weighs heavily against the right of someone else to end it, even their own mother.

For me it's shades of grey. It's clearly wrong for a mum to kill her newborn baby, or her baby just before it is born. Equally I reject the common prolife view that humanity starts at conception.

For me there's no fixed start to human life -- it is emergent.

I am confident, however, that at 24 weeks we're talking straight up murder. Babies have survived from 21 weeks, and potentially could durvive far earlier. They have a rudimentary brain far earlier too.

My current judgement, subject to evidence based review, is before 8 weeks is definitely fine. 8 to 16 weeks, there should be strong reasons and counselling to mum to make her aware of the balance of life vs choicr. After 16 weeks, unless mum will die, the imperative not to murder means abortion is unethical.

I respect the right of others to make different judgements, and believe in the rule of law through a sound government should decide society's laws.

However, this is my personal ethical judgement.

Rhodevus, Siornor, Jutsa, Isbjorn Maerenne Bava Paerani, and 11 othersRuinenlust, Uan aa Boa, Canaltia, XXURBANXX, Roless, Faurexus, Nation of ecologists, York Zionia, Forest Virginia, Yoakekuni, and Great julunaphra

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:Possible controversial opinion:

Pro life is recognition of two axioms:

1) human life has intrinsic value, and you need a a damn good reason to end it.
2) human life begins at an earlier date than abortions are allowed.

I'm broadly of this opinion. I recognise that a woman's bodily autonomy is important and that there are sociological risks to infringing on that. However I also feel that a humans right not to have its life ended weighs heavily against the right of someone else to end it, even their own mother.

For me it's shades of grey. It's clearly wrong for a mum to kill her newborn baby, or her baby just before it is born. Equally I reject the common prolife view that humanity starts at conception.

For me there's no fixed start to human life -- it is emergent.

I am confident, however, that at 24 weeks we're talking straight up murder. Babies have survived from 21 weeks, and potentially could durvive far earlier. They have a rudimentary brain far earlier too.

My current judgement, subject to evidence based review, is before 8 weeks is definitely fine. 8 to 16 weeks, there should be strong reasons and counselling to mum to make her aware of the balance of life vs choicr. After 16 weeks, unless mum will die, the imperative not to murder means abortion is unethical.

I respect the right of others to make different judgements, and believe in the rule of law through a sound government should decide society's laws.

However, this is my personal ethical judgement.

The majority of abortions in 2019 took place early in gestation: 92.7% of abortions were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (6.2%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (<1.0%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation.

edit: not refuting you or anything; your opinion is yours, and you explained it well. I just wanted to tack on some statistics (https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/data_stats/abortion.htm) which kinda short the breakdown of abortions.

as for timelines, most people discover they are pregnant at around the 6 week mark.

Siornor, Ruinenlust, Faurexus, Nation of ecologists, and 4 othersSantichushari, Ecologist Hegemony, Yoakekuni, and Great julunaphra

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