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Somers wrote:That may be, and that is inexcusable.

It is better to have standards that are violated, and work towards ensuring no violations, than to not have standards.

Quick reminder that "work towards ensuring no violations" should mean "putting those who violate humane standards to the bayonet"

Cisplatinaa wrote:The My Lai massacre.a good example of this ....

And that should show the need even more to use all methods possible to ensure nations do not violate these norms.

Cisplatinaa wrote:I did not understand your question .... sorry

It's fine. I was joking around anyways.

Pakitsk wrote:Quick reminder that "work towards ensuring no violations" should mean "putting those who violate humane standards to the bayonet"

I'm not really sure what you mean to say.

The sennheiser union

    FIREFIGHT ERUPTS IN WESTERN KURAKONA

    Late last night, the Western Kurakonan kingdom had finally restored communications with the rest of the Sennheiser Union after armed militia groups raided a military convoy running operations near the Kurakonan-Vastari border. The raided convoy was found later this morning, with all personnel killed, and all supplies, including weapons and ammunition, were missing. There was only one towed-artillery piece the convoy brought along, which was missing as well. The lock which secured the payload seemed to be bypassed, as it was found on the ground, in open position.

    The Kurakonan kingdom had opened communications with the Central Government after the raid. Hierarch Regis of Kurakona stated that; "We didn't have any other choice. If we were still isolated from the rest of the Union, the kingdom would have been decimated."

    This isn't the first time Kurakona had experienced attacks like these. Ever since the kingdom cut networks with the Union, attacks on convoys, forts and naval dry docks came into effect. As days went by, the attacks only got worse.

    The Council of Hierarchs approved to dispatch the Union Peacekeepers into Vastar. The Peacekeepers is a subdivision in the Union's Special Forces branch. The Peacekeepers are tasked to keep the Union stable through troubled times, especially times like this for the Kurakonans.

    The Peacekeepers will mobilize into Kurakona later next week. For now, Kurakona stands alone.

Somers wrote:The Republic of Somers would would propose that the International Peacekeeping Corps only be able to be used in an area where the government with recognized authority allows it, or where there is no order or ability for authority to be enforced.

For instance, these forces should not be sent into a country that is not cooperating with ICJ in turning a wanted criminal in.

Is this already how it works, or does it work differently?

First, a security council meeting must be held ... at that meeting, the nature of the action and its consequences will be discussed, then the approval or not ... if it is approved, the nations involved offer a fraction of the battalion or division. in that case we don't have a UN ... just a (limited) court I don't recognize it

Pakitsk wrote:Quick reminder that "work towards ensuring no violations" should mean "putting those who violate humane standards to the bayonet"

Do not exaggerate

Cisplatinaa wrote:Do not exaggerate

What exaggeration? The threat of retribution works wonders if backed up by bayonets.

Pakitsk wrote:What exaggeration? The threat of retribution works wonders if backed up by bayonets.

The Soviets did the same thing in Poland and it gave a "wonderful result" that everyone knows

Cisplatinaa wrote:First, a security council meeting must be held ... at that meeting, the nature of the action and its consequences will be discussed, then the approval or not ... if it is approved, the nations involved offer a fraction of the battalion or division. in that case we don't have a UN ... just a (limited) court I don't recognize it

Somers recognizes these norms not as a single document or UN/Security Council responsibility, but as a principle of international law. We see it as an all-pervasive expectation for states that doesn't come from an overarching authority. They must not be politicized, and instead be seen as the basic expectation for all nations, from the most liberal to the most repressive country.

Cisplatinaa wrote:The Soviets did the same thing in Poland and it gave a "wonderful result" that everyone knows

...that isn't the same. An invasion to take land is something apart from an enforcement action.

The sennheiser union wrote:
    FIREFIGHT ERUPTS IN WESTERN KURAKONA

    Late last night, the Western Kurakonan kingdom had finally restored communications with the rest of the Sennheiser Union after armed militia groups raided a military convoy running operations near the Kurakonan-Vastari border. The raided convoy was found later this morning, with all personnel killed, and all supplies, including weapons and ammunition, were missing. There was only one towed-artillery piece the convoy brought along, which was missing as well. The lock which secured the payload seemed to be bypassed, as it was found on the ground, in open position.

    The Kurakonan kingdom had opened communications with the Central Government after the raid. Hierarch Regis of Kurakona stated that; "We didn't have any other choice. If we were still isolated from the rest of the Union, the kingdom would have been decimated."

    This isn't the first time Kurakona had experienced attacks like these. Ever since the kingdom cut networks with the Union, attacks on convoys, forts and naval dry docks came into effect. As days went by, the attacks only got worse.

    The Council of Hierarchs approved to dispatch the Union Peacekeepers into Vastar. The Peacekeepers is a subdivision in the Union's Special Forces branch. The Peacekeepers are tasked to keep the Union stable through troubled times, especially times like this for the Kurakonans.

    The Peacekeepers will mobilize into Kurakona later next week. For now, Kurakona stands alone.

The Green Cross would like to assist.

Danelaw Scandinavia and The sennheiser union

Somers wrote:Somers recognizes these norms not as a single document or UN/Security Council responsibility, but as a principle of international law. We see it as an all-pervasive expectation for states that doesn't come from an overarching authority. They must not be politicized, and instead be seen as the basic expectation for all nations, from the most liberal to the most repressive country.

This theory serves for a few moments .... imagine the platoon without the UN? As you said ... it's better to have to fight for than to have nothing.

We must develop an instrument for nations to feel confident, an arm ready to help .... in fact, you are right, but even so it violates the sovereignty of nations, right?

The sennheiser union

Volinovia wrote:The Green Cross would like to assist.

Kurakona would greatly appreciate the help, if any.

Pakitsk wrote:...that isn't the same. An invasion to take land is something apart from an enforcement action.

But a promise of freedom was made right ?? to see children in uniforms singing Soviet hymns is it funny ?? ....

The sennheiser union wrote:Kurakona would greatly appreciate the help, if any.

The Blue Moon after saving the Scandinavian Ship requests if they could help.

The sennheiser union

The sennheiser union wrote:Kurakona would greatly appreciate the help, if any.

The Green Cross will dispatch personnel to Kurakona.

Danelaw Scandinavia and The sennheiser union

Pakitsk wrote:...that isn't the same. An invasion to take land is something apart from an enforcement action.

This is an example of a jus cogens norm violation - annexing land by war is an impermissible violation of the prohibition of aggressive wars (which we in Somers recognize).

Cisplatinaa wrote:But a promise of freedom was made right ?? to see children in uniforms singing Soviet hymns is it funny ?? ....

I don't understand you. Is your native language not English?

Pakitsk wrote:I don't understand you. Is your native language not English?

Yes I am Scottish .... sorry

Somers wrote:This is an example of a jus cogens norm violation - annexing land by war is an impermissible violation of the prohibition of aggressive wars (which we in Somers recognize).

See, the way to get around that is puppeted buffer states made out of conquered land.

a promise of freedom was made, but the opposite happened

I now have authority to kick Patkisk

#bestdayofmylife

well, it was supposed to say Pakitsk ^

Libertanny wrote:I now have authority to kick Patkisk

#bestdayofmylife

how are you liking your new authority?

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