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RESULTS - EXECUTIVE BRANCH IMPEACHABLE OFFENCES ACT
Executive Branch Impeachable Offences Act
Author: Fishergate
Sponsors: Fishergate & Pap sculgief
RESULTS
I hereby declare the Executive Branch Impeachable Offences Act has passed the Senate by a vote of 7-0. It will now head over to the House of Commons.
United faith kingdom and The Islamic Country of Honour
OPENING DEBATE - REPEAL OF THE HOUSE COMMITTEES ACT
Repeal of L.R. 028 - The House Committees Act
Authors: Catlin & Brototh
Sponsors: Brototh & Andusre
This bill repeals the House Committees Act, a law which has only been in place for a matter of days and which has only been put into effect one time. I believe it is quite destructive to repeal this law so soon after it was passed and although I agree that the House Committees system is not flawless, I do not agree that it should be abolished so soon. We have not yet given the system a chance to prove its value and repealing the law now would set a negative precedent of not allowing these kinds of systems to mature and settle into a productive aspect of our democratic system. In short: it's too soon to repeal this law so I encourage Senators to reject this bill now and resubmit it at a later date if they believe the House committees are still proving impractical after they have been given time to properly establish themselves.
United cascadian peoples, Snowflame, Asean nations, United faith kingdom, and 2 othersThe Islamic Country of Honour, and Marvinville
As we saw the House Committees are a useless waste of space and time only used to score political points. Most of the stuff the House Committees can do the House can do without committees, like hearings.
You can't judge the utility of House Committees solely from the one time they have been utilised so far. If we always gave up on things that didn't work out perfectly straight away we wouldn't get very far as a species.
As for your political points scoring comment, this is not the sort of argument the Senate should stoop to, but in this case the claim is so absurd I feel obliged to refute it. The House Committees Act was passed by a multi-partisan majority of MPs and Senators who thought it would bring benefit to Thaecia's political system. What we see now is a minority group of Senators and MPs who opposed the bill in the first place attempting to repeal the Act very soon after it was passed and without any convincing reasons as to why. This is a very negative example to set: if members of Congress are to move to repeal successful bills they voted against not even a term after they became law. It is destructive and obstructive and I'm disappointed in Senator Andusre and Brototh MP because I expect them to know better. Senator Catlin, I'm just surprised by your audacity to claim that passing the House Committees Act was political points scoring, when it appears your motion to repeal it is in fact much more so.
Snowflame, Asean nations, United faith kingdom, The Islamic Country of Honour, and 1 otherMarvinville
I share the same opinion as Chairman Fishergate. The House Committees Act, aside from being passed by both chambers multiple times, has barely had the time to show off it's full capabilities.
Everyone who argues to repeal the act always mention that one scenario that happened without taking into account that
1. This bill has not been a law for too long
2. Committee chairs run the committees differently.
I don't think one specific situation should be used as the underlying argument for repealing. Maybe this topic can be brought back up at a later date, but as of right now it is unfair to call the law ineffective or useless when it has barely had time to show off its efficiency and use.
VOTING - REPEAL OF THE HOUSE COMMITTEES ACT
Repeal of L.R. 028 - The House Committees Act
Authors: Catlin & Brototh
Sponsors: Brototh & Andusre
We will vote on this bill now. I am voting 'nay'.
United faith kingdom and Marvinville
Nay
aye
Nay
I'm sorry for my inactivity. I'm voting Nay I think we should give it a chance and more time to be fully integrated to our present system.
United faith kingdom and Marvinville
RESULTS - REPEAL OF THE HOUSE COMMITTEES ACT
Repeal of L.R. 028 - The House Committees Act
Authors: Catlin & Brototh
Sponsors: Brototh & Andusre
RESULTS
I hereby declare the Repeal of the House Committees Act has been rejected by the Senate by a vote of 5-2.
OPENING DEBATE - REPEAL OF THE THAECIA GOVERNMENT PETITIONING SYSTEM
Repeal of L.R. 012 - Thaecia Government Petitioning System
Author: Marvinville
Sponsor: Marvinville
This bill finds issue with and aims to repeal the current petitioning system in Thaecia. While the system may not be perfect, a flat repeal is not helpful or productive so I encourage Senators to instead consider amendments to improve the bill.
Snowflame, Asean nations, United faith kingdom, and Zanaana
I like it. Petitions have been in law for about a year now and haven't been used once.
Snowflame, Catlin, Asean nations, United faith kingdom, and 2 othersMarvinville, and Zanaana
I agree. They have been barely used and are ineffective.
Marvinville and Zanaana
VOTING - REPEAL OF THE THAECIA GOVERNMENT PETITIONING SYSTEM
Repeal of L.R. 012 - Thaecia Government Petitioning System
Author: Marvinville
Sponsor: Marvinville
It seems most Senators don't have much to input regarding this bill, so let's move to the voting.
I am voting nay because I believe it is essential for Thaecian residents to be able to petition their representatives and political leaders and this bill takes away the system which in place to facilitate that. Without providing an alternative system, repealing the law outright is highly destructive.
Nay, it would strip a direct line of citizens to its representative/leaders and without a proper plan to replace the system, it would highly be ineffective. In my honest oppinion, we shouldnt take the fact that the system hasnt been used as a bad sign rather take it as a good sign as it shows that citizens hasnt come to the 'last resort' if you'll excuse the term to be heard by one of the three branches of government and its Leaders, it just serves as a safety bracket.
Aye
Marvinville and Zanaana
Aye
Marvinville and Zanaana
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