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Ukraine uss wrote:hey
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The Sovereignty of
Cartiga can you make this famose?

Krich is this one of your schizo apparitions

P0rtvgal and The Iron Stars

Your rich uncle from nigeria

Woooooood!!!!!

P0rtvgal

United klan of america wrote:hello

What were you even thinking when you made this account bruh

Ukraine uss wrote:hey
LikeQuote
The Sovereignty of
Cartiga can you make this famose?

sea cucumber brain tier posts
Got a third one for the home run? Cuz I'm bouta award you an ambassadorial position in our government...

Cartiga, Chalybea, and Krich aerd

P0rtvgal wrote:What were you even thinking when you made this account bruh
sea cucumber brain tier posts
Got a third one for the home run? Cuz I'm bouta award you an ambassadorial position in our government...

United klan of america wrote:hello

Cool name lol. But I wonder how long until the mods catch on

P0rtvgal and Chalybea

Federal democratic republic of robloxia

Hello I'm here

P0rtvgal

Valdonia wrote:Cool name lol. But I wonder how long until the mods catch on

I can't even quite tell if it's technically against the rules or not, but I wouldn't risk it. He could argue that a Klansman America is an interesting fringe idea to build lore around, but what tf do I know? My sol invictus empire collapsed and is entirely ran by cats now. It also takes a special kind of magic to pull his concept off b/c everyone knows the Klan is Kringe, 9 out of 10 of their "members" are federal agents and the last guy is always clinically retarded.

Federal democratic republic of robloxia wrote:Hello I'm here

For now.
"Federal Republic of Federal Democratic Republic of..."
You got 12 hours to return with an appropriately named nation and anything but a vanilla indigenous flag or you're joining Ukraine uss in his ambassador summit later today.

Chalybea and Krich aerd

Krich aerd wrote:I only answered the parts addressed to me because the FSB fr ain't paying me overtime

Don't worry about it, you've got things to take care of, family to look after. I wish you well.

I have to take my attention elsewhere now, projects don't move forward without the forwarders. More responses to other posts will be scheduled.

P0rtvgal, Chalybea, and Krich aerd

The Iron Stars since you asked...

More trade items will be added over time.
Requests will generally not be taken, but suggestions and reminders are welcomed.

The [ITA] is compiling an ever-expanding list of culturally relevant intra & inter-regional trade goods which enrich life in the social community of the Fifth Empire

A preliminary report on each good can be read in each respective spoiler button!

⚖️

Nation State

Product Category

Noteworthy Export & Description

Krich aerd

Food

This otherwise inconspicuous bread is made with the flour of an unknown combination of Krich Aerdian cereal seeds. Widely imported in vast quantities and consumed across the most crowded urban centers of the Empire, the bread is suspiciously linked to symptoms of heightened paranoia, audio-visual hallucinations, and obsessive compulsive behavior in relation to invisible shapes and patterns. Yet to be recognized or regulated by most national governments, it is seeing an uptrend in consumption.

Ocean point

Food

Jellybeans from Ocean Point have recently surged in popularity within the region as the only halal candy to ever be imported into the Empire. The beans come only in two colors- "Islamic black standard" black, and "sapphire blue", representing the Oceanpointian national color as well as their use of the sapphire gem as common currency. The foreign candy is massively consumed in The Iron Stars and banned altogether by the zealous Confederation of Southern Memelander government.

South godland

Device

Having emerged the final victor of a series of confusing civil wars with every other directional Godland, South Godland began issuing new compasses and destroying all the old ones in mass burnings. These new compasses point South as their main cardinal direction rather than toward the wreched North. Treated as a novelty import everywhere else, the Godlander compass is a symbol of national unity at home.

Milkzorzistan

Food

The morbidly obese deer litter the vast woodlands of Milkzorzistan and their milk is at the base of the nation's diet. Far too fat to evade humankind, the species is otherwise unbothered in its natural habitat due to the total absence of any predator large enough to prey upon it. At 69% fat this milk is the product of choice for weight lifters all across the Fifth Empire, as well as often being included in sponsor care-packages sent to tributes during regional Hunger Games.

Your rich uncle from nigeria

Furniture

The second biggest source of revenue for this nation- after bank wire transfer fraud- is furniture of all shapes and sizes which produced and shipped abroad by the metric billions. Their most sought after and recognizable types of furniture are the nuclear-proof closets and desks made out of rare uncle-nigerium wood whose fibers are legendary for their overall resistance to thermonuclear heat blasts. It is said that well after Man has destroyed himself through the power of the atom, the Earth will be left to the cockroach and the maze of nuclear-proof closets that will litter the lands.

Tobosarsk

Pharmaceutical

Already internationally renowned for its massive array of mental asylums, Tobosarsk cemented its role as the overlords of medicating the imperial masses through its hit product- the antipsychotic Deliriumgonoxine- developed by the bright minds of the frighteningly advanced tobosarskian pharmaceutical industrial complex, which has at this point essentially taken over governance of the nation. Pharma stocks have hit all time highs since the nation was appointed for the Imperial Directorate of Mental Health. Medical professionals are financially compensated to dish out Deliriumgonoxine prescriptions in areas most affected by the craze of Krich aerdian bread.

Tre vorunt

Food

This bizarre cereal made to the breakfast tables of many Imperial families after a sponsored nutritional health report hit imperial broadcasts early in the Summer. Said to turn even the rowdiest of children into obedient and calm exemplary students, the product has come into recent scrutiny over its alleged side effects of zombification in some of its consumers, and erratic methamphetamine-like results in others. Some health advocates argue that the cereal is barely even made of cereal and that its constitution rather resembles a drug, but the producers at Tre vorunt seem confident that this is little more than Tobosarskian pharmaceutical giants' desperate attempts to carve market share for their very own upcoming "Sharp Learn-O's".

The arab vatican

Firearm

The weapon of choice for arming the militaries of the most Christian of nations. It is said that the design at the core of the wide family of blessed assault rosaries came to His Holy Father in a dream, delivered by Saint Michael the Archangel himself, who stood atop the bullet ridden slain dragon Satan. The talking heads of the armed forces say that the use of these rosary rifles guarantee the eternal damnation of all fallen enemies of the Fifth Empire.

🌟 The genesis of these products and items is spontaneous and occurs as a result of the many interactions between the members of the Fifth Empire, as well as extra-regional relations with individual nation states or entire regions as a whole. This means that the highlighting of your very own national treasure cannot be brought about by forceful attempts, inorganic interactions, or formal requests. The Imperial Ministry of Culture & the Imperial Trade Authority therefore advise you to partake in the social community to its full extent- from regional message board discussions to future wargames, roleplays, and hunger games events, so that you can leave your very own personal mark in the community lore building of this region & the regional pacts and friendships we partake in. Last updated 02-Oct-2022

Read factbook

Atsuria, The Iron Stars, Chalybea, Krich aerd, and 1 otherOcean point

Someone asked for my opinion on the matter of the current war- unfortunately most of the population here couldn’t care less about killing their brother nation because of nearly a decade of propaganda beating in their heads the idea of Ukrainians being not their brothers but rather a completely different, hostile nation to the very idea of tradition and conservatism.

United klan of america

Valdonia wrote:Cool name lol. But I wonder how long until the mods catch on

i've seen nations with the full name

Tobosarsk wrote:Krich is this one of your schizo apparitions

No

Ocean point

P0rtvgal wrote:The Iron Stars since you asked...

More trade items will be added over time.
Requests will generally not be taken, but suggestions and reminders are welcomed.

The [ITA] is compiling an ever-expanding list of culturally relevant intra & inter-regional trade goods which enrich life in the social community of the Fifth Empire

A preliminary report on each good can be read in each respective spoiler button!

⚖️

Nation State

Product Category

Noteworthy Export & Description

Krich aerd

Food

This otherwise inconspicuous bread is made with the flour of an unknown combination of Krich Aerdian cereal seeds. Widely imported in vast quantities and consumed across the most crowded urban centers of the Empire, the bread is suspiciously linked to symptoms of heightened paranoia, audio-visual hallucinations, and obsessive compulsive behavior in relation to invisible shapes and patterns. Yet to be recognized or regulated by most national governments, it is seeing an uptrend in consumption.

Ocean point

Food

Jellybeans from Ocean Point have recently surged in popularity within the region as the only halal candy to ever be imported into the Empire. The beans come only in two colors- "Islamic black standard" black, and "sapphire blue", representing the Oceanpointian national color as well as their use of the sapphire gem as common currency. The foreign candy is massively consumed in The Iron Stars and banned altogether by the zealous Confederation of Southern Memelander government.

South godland

Device

Having emerged the final victor of a series of confusing civil wars with every other directional Godland, South Godland began issuing new compasses and destroying all the old ones in mass burnings. These new compasses point South as their main cardinal direction rather than toward the wreched North. Treated as a novelty import everywhere else, the Godlander compass is a symbol of national unity at home.

Milkzorzistan

Food

The morbidly obese deer litter the vast woodlands of Milkzorzistan and their milk is at the base of the nation's diet. Far too fat to evade humankind, the species is otherwise unbothered in its natural habitat due to the total absence of any predator large enough to prey upon it. At 69% fat this milk is the product of choice for weight lifters all across the Fifth Empire, as well as often being included in sponsor care-packages sent to tributes during regional Hunger Games.

Your rich uncle from nigeria

Furniture

The second biggest source of revenue for this nation- after bank wire transfer fraud- is furniture of all shapes and sizes which produced and shipped abroad by the metric billions. Their most sought after and recognizable types of furniture are the nuclear-proof closets and desks made out of rare uncle-nigerium wood whose fibers are legendary for their overall resistance to thermonuclear heat blasts. It is said that well after Man has destroyed himself through the power of the atom, the Earth will be left to the cockroach and the maze of nuclear-proof closets that will litter the lands.

Tobosarsk

Pharmaceutical

Already internationally renowned for its massive array of mental asylums, Tobosarsk cemented its role as the overlords of medicating the imperial masses through its hit product- the antipsychotic Deliriumgonoxine- developed by the bright minds of the frighteningly advanced tobosarskian pharmaceutical industrial complex, which has at this point essentially taken over governance of the nation. Pharma stocks have hit all time highs since the nation was appointed for the Imperial Directorate of Mental Health. Medical professionals are financially compensated to dish out Deliriumgonoxine prescriptions in areas most affected by the craze of Krich aerdian bread.

Tre vorunt

Food

This bizarre cereal made to the breakfast tables of many Imperial families after a sponsored nutritional health report hit imperial broadcasts early in the Summer. Said to turn even the rowdiest of children into obedient and calm exemplary students, the product has come into recent scrutiny over its alleged side effects of zombification in some of its consumers, and erratic methamphetamine-like results in others. Some health advocates argue that the cereal is barely even made of cereal and that its constitution rather resembles a drug, but the producers at Tre vorunt seem confident that this is little more than Tobosarskian pharmaceutical giants' desperate attempts to carve market share for their very own upcoming "Sharp Learn-O's".

The arab vatican

Firearm

The weapon of choice for arming the militaries of the most Christian of nations. It is said that the design at the core of the wide family of blessed assault rosaries came to His Holy Father in a dream, delivered by Saint Michael the Archangel himself, who stood atop the bullet ridden slain dragon Satan. The talking heads of the armed forces say that the use of these rosary rifles guarantee the eternal damnation of all fallen enemies of the Fifth Empire.

🌟 The genesis of these products and items is spontaneous and occurs as a result of the many interactions between the members of the Fifth Empire, as well as extra-regional relations with individual nation states or entire regions as a whole. This means that the highlighting of your very own national treasure cannot be brought about by forceful attempts, inorganic interactions, or formal requests. The Imperial Ministry of Culture & the Imperial Trade Authority therefore advise you to partake in the social community to its full extent- from regional message board discussions to future wargames, roleplays, and hunger games events, so that you can leave your very own personal mark in the community lore building of this region & the regional pacts and friendships we partake in. Last updated 02-Oct-2022

Read factbook

Bread, Jellybeans, Compass, Morbidly Obese Deer Milk, Nuclear Proof Closests, Deliriumgonoxine, Cereal and Gun. Long ago, the 8 exports lived in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Bread Nation attacked. Only the P0RTVGAL, master of all 8 exports, could stop them, but when the world needed him most, he vanished. A hundred years passed and my brother and I discovered the new P0RTVGAL, a compass named Cristiano Ronaldo, and although his soccer skills are great, he has a lot to learn before he's ready to save anyone. But I believe Ronaldo can save the world.

P0RTVGAL, the Last Compass. Pilot episode premiering sometime this month.

P0rtvgal wrote:The Iron Stars since you asked...

More trade items will be added over time.
Requests will generally not be taken, but suggestions and reminders are welcomed.

The [ITA] is compiling an ever-expanding list of culturally relevant intra & inter-regional trade goods which enrich life in the social community of the Fifth Empire

A preliminary report on each good can be read in each respective spoiler button!

⚖️

Nation State

Product Category

Noteworthy Export & Description

Krich aerd

Food

This otherwise inconspicuous bread is made with the flour of an unknown combination of Krich Aerdian cereal seeds. Widely imported in vast quantities and consumed across the most crowded urban centers of the Empire, the bread is suspiciously linked to symptoms of heightened paranoia, audio-visual hallucinations, and obsessive compulsive behavior in relation to invisible shapes and patterns. Yet to be recognized or regulated by most national governments, it is seeing an uptrend in consumption.

Ocean point

Food

Jellybeans from Ocean Point have recently surged in popularity within the region as the only halal candy to ever be imported into the Empire. The beans come only in two colors- "Islamic black standard" black, and "sapphire blue", representing the Oceanpointian national color as well as their use of the sapphire gem as common currency. The foreign candy is massively consumed in The Iron Stars and banned altogether by the zealous Confederation of Southern Memelander government.

South godland

Device

Having emerged the final victor of a series of confusing civil wars with every other directional Godland, South Godland began issuing new compasses and destroying all the old ones in mass burnings. These new compasses point South as their main cardinal direction rather than toward the wreched North. Treated as a novelty import everywhere else, the Godlander compass is a symbol of national unity at home.

Milkzorzistan

Food

The morbidly obese deer litter the vast woodlands of Milkzorzistan and their milk is at the base of the nation's diet. Far too fat to evade humankind, the species is otherwise unbothered in its natural habitat due to the total absence of any predator large enough to prey upon it. At 69% fat this milk is the product of choice for weight lifters all across the Fifth Empire, as well as often being included in sponsor care-packages sent to tributes during regional Hunger Games.

Your rich uncle from nigeria

Furniture

The second biggest source of revenue for this nation- after bank wire transfer fraud- is furniture of all shapes and sizes which produced and shipped abroad by the metric billions. Their most sought after and recognizable types of furniture are the nuclear-proof closets and desks made out of rare uncle-nigerium wood whose fibers are legendary for their overall resistance to thermonuclear heat blasts. It is said that well after Man has destroyed himself through the power of the atom, the Earth will be left to the cockroach and the maze of nuclear-proof closets that will litter the lands.

Tobosarsk

Pharmaceutical

Already internationally renowned for its massive array of mental asylums, Tobosarsk cemented its role as the overlords of medicating the imperial masses through its hit product- the antipsychotic Deliriumgonoxine- developed by the bright minds of the frighteningly advanced tobosarskian pharmaceutical industrial complex, which has at this point essentially taken over governance of the nation. Pharma stocks have hit all time highs since the nation was appointed for the Imperial Directorate of Mental Health. Medical professionals are financially compensated to dish out Deliriumgonoxine prescriptions in areas most affected by the craze of Krich aerdian bread.

Tre vorunt

Food

This bizarre cereal made to the breakfast tables of many Imperial families after a sponsored nutritional health report hit imperial broadcasts early in the Summer. Said to turn even the rowdiest of children into obedient and calm exemplary students, the product has come into recent scrutiny over its alleged side effects of zombification in some of its consumers, and erratic methamphetamine-like results in others. Some health advocates argue that the cereal is barely even made of cereal and that its constitution rather resembles a drug, but the producers at Tre vorunt seem confident that this is little more than Tobosarskian pharmaceutical giants' desperate attempts to carve market share for their very own upcoming "Sharp Learn-O's".

The arab vatican

Firearm

The weapon of choice for arming the militaries of the most Christian of nations. It is said that the design at the core of the wide family of blessed assault rosaries came to His Holy Father in a dream, delivered by Saint Michael the Archangel himself, who stood atop the bullet ridden slain dragon Satan. The talking heads of the armed forces say that the use of these rosary rifles guarantee the eternal damnation of all fallen enemies of the Fifth Empire.

🌟 The genesis of these products and items is spontaneous and occurs as a result of the many interactions between the members of the Fifth Empire, as well as extra-regional relations with individual nation states or entire regions as a whole. This means that the highlighting of your very own national treasure cannot be brought about by forceful attempts, inorganic interactions, or formal requests. The Imperial Ministry of Culture & the Imperial Trade Authority therefore advise you to partake in the social community to its full extent- from regional message board discussions to future wargames, roleplays, and hunger games events, so that you can leave your very own personal mark in the community lore building of this region & the regional pacts and friendships we partake in. Last updated 02-Oct-2022

Read factbook

Cue Krich's rabbi bread

Krich aerd

Atsuria wrote:You do realize that there are also Anglos and Dutch who would agree with you about critical points you could / would make about their states or governments? There is no sense to connect the actions of the people's worst with the people in general, or their best. Regardless of where we are in the world, we all live and cope with bad guidance and lackluster leadership, the choices and decisions they make and have made in the past, on account of the structural status quo we have fooled ourselves into.

There are ethnicities whose culture will always endanger others. The Japanese (of course I bring up the Japanese) have a culture of militarism and expansionism, no matter what year it is. Due to their culture the Japanese government has always been subservient to an army. In the 1920s it was the IJA, now in the 2020s it's the US Army. No matter what year it is, their national thoughts are about invading others. The Germans, as a nation, have denounced their actions from 1933 to 1945. Sure there are those in the eastern parts of Germany who still remain neo-Nazis due to endless years of Soviet blame-ridding, but as a whole, Germany has thrown off the banner of anti-Semitism. The Japanese, as an entire nation, have done nothing to renounce their mistakes. Every year those genocide deniers in the Japanese government go to the Yasukuni shrine to pay their respects to those who slaughter thousands. In the German people, there are a few bad apples which spoil the harvest. In the Japanese people, there are a few good apples in an already rotten harvest. It's not a matter of bad guidance or lackluster leadership, it's that the national culture of Japan as a whole is founded on atrocities and militarism. This national culture problem is present for the Brits, who still pride themselves on the days of colonialism, for the Americans who harken back to the days of the 20th century where they could not leave any country alone, for the Latvians who always somehow trace their ancestry to Baltic Germans and Nazis, and for many, many more ethnicities. There are only a few ethnicities who can attribute their terrible actions to a few bad apples who found their way into government, and they are also quickly disappearing.

Revolutionary anmola

Based on expansionism in a cutthroat era of imperialism from the 1890s to 1940s, I will condemn the entirety of Japan for being unshakably warlike. I am very smart.

Atsuria, Chalybea, and Krich aerd

Cartiga wrote:Based on expansionism in a cutthroat era of imperialism from the 1890s to 1940s, I will condemn the entirety of Japan for being unshakably warlike. I am very smart.

And a cutthroat era of militarism from 794 to 1185. And a cutthroat era of militarism from 1185 to 1333. And a cutthroat era of militarism from 1333 to 1568. And a cutthroat era of militarism from 1568 to 1600. And a cutthroat era of militarism from 1600 to 1868. And a cutthroat era of militarism and imperialism from 1868 to 1945. And a cutthroat era of denialism from 1945 to 2022. I am indeed very smart.

Chalybea, Krich aerd, and Revolutionary anmola

Based on whatever insane, pearl-clutching metrics you're using I guess we should nuke everybody but the Eskimos to be on the safe side, don't want anyone left that could be too violent.

P0rtvgal and Atsuria

Cartiga wrote:Based on whatever insane, pearl-clutching metrics you're using I guess we should nuke everybody but the Eskimos to be on the safe side, don't want anyone left that could be too violent.

Give me another country who's history is basically militarism since its existence until now. I think you will find it hard to do so, because Japan is probably one of the only current countries whose culture solely involves militarism. (Ignore Africa for obvious reasons)

Revolutionary anmola

The arab vatican

Ocean point wrote:and Gun.

Actually, contrary to popular belief, the Assault Rosary is only shaped like a gun. In practice it's much closer to a cross between a lasso and a chainsaw. Smells delightful too, lubricated with chrism oil. Well maintained, one may recite a full five decades in 1.2 seconds flat.

P0rtvgal, The Iron Stars, Chalybea, Krich aerd, and 1 otherTobosarsk

im reading the trade board and im chuckling greatly, well done port

P0rtvgal, Atsuria, and Chalybea

Atsuria, Chalybea, Krich aerd, and Tobosarsk

The Iron Stars wrote:

Exactly my point - if you go with option 2 and force assimilation, do you not believe it would harbour resentment or foster divisions? When the Ukraine effectively made the Eastern half of the country second class citizens it signed its own death warrant. Could you imagine the US implementing English-language only laws? You can bet all those southern States with heavy Mexican influence would not be fans - and you can probably bet Mexico would want to ensure the safety of residents there for the future. This is only what Russia has done - or at least what they tell everyone they're fighting for.

I wont dispute incompetence - but I feel you're making it a bigger contribution than it actually is out of personal bias and need for a weak Russia. Secondly, Ukraine always had numerical superiority. Russia went into the SMO with 200,000 men and some DPR/LPR militias. Ukraine, even before full mobilisation, boasted over 300,000 men who have been extensively trained by NATO forces in pan-Eureopean exercises and from England to Poland. The whole "paper tiger" buzzword gets bandied around by journalists with no real idea of what type of war Russia is actually waging: as an SMO it cannot force Ukraine into submission with heavy guns or nuclear arms (coincidentally, Russian specialties). Even the use of guided missiles has been limited to choice targets in civilian-heavy population centers (like when Ukraine tried storing ammo under a hotel). We haven't seen a full mobilization of Russian warfare - and the elements we have seen have been incredibly effective. It was only a few units of the VDV who took Hostomel and held it for nearly a week against the full might of a Ukraine adamant to keep their capital. The Russian push into the south of the country - despite absurdly heavy fighting - was rapid (and they held the territory against armed civilian populaces!). One only needs to look at the fighting over the Azovstal steel plant - a fortress designed to withstand nuclear war with the Americans - which surrendered after only 82 days with no relief force in sight, taken without any of Russia's heavy assets other than standard artillery and some really angry Chechen hillmen. On the flipside you have Ukraine, who armed any civillian who wanted a weapon (only technically a war crime turning your entire nation into combatants without uniform), who had the third largest amount of active tanks in Europe (with Turkey only slightly ahead of them), who took months just to stem the invasion against a vastly inferior force and who's whole counter-offensive was made through undefended Northern flanks. Saying they scored "positively" is a bit weird when Russia still controls vast swathes of Ukrainian territory, including basically every port city. I guess you can say Ukraine are better at making ARMA videos for social media idiots to retweet, but after Russia's concerts the other in favour of full scale war I'm not even certain that's true.

I have no idea why you're bringing up the rape of Berlin. It's not even contextually appropriate - Russia had just won a war that required the sacrifices of untold millions. An actual 4 year slog of the type that the world had never seen before and probably wont ever see again. I'm not arguing that it was justified, but I am arguing that no officer in their right mind would stop their soldiers from venting after the atrocities the Germans started across Eastern Europe!

You are desperate for Russia to be this crazy, dystopian state that it just isn't, like my dude it's actually comical reading through this blatant propaganda. Older tech is incredibly useful for rear line and quiet zone applications, allowing better stuff to be positioned where it's needed whilst remaining overall cheaper to service and use. Similarly, like how conscripts are not expected to serve on the front line, but to free up actual troopers from garrison duties - why would they need to be stationed around Karelia anymore? Russia can't launch an invasion of Finland because of the fast-tracked NATO application and defense treaty with the UK, and I'm 99% sure the Finnish are not silly enough to invade Russia during its angry year. Why do you expect them to keep arms and equipment in a location that’s not just no longer needed, but an unviable avenue for the future? That’s not incompetence - it’s the opposite.

Also, we have no evidence that Russia used up all its advanced ballistics. We have (famously inaccurate) guesses from the British MoD on how many they have used and how many we thought they had at the start, but considering their boasts of getting Satan-2s up and running quicker than the MoD expected, and with rocketry being Russia's biggest military tech, I suspect rather strongly that they've got stockpiles upon stockpiles they’re itching to use. Not to mention your judgement on relevant targets is odd at best: are mercenary training camps not valid targets? Rail lines importing goods and ammo from the West - not important enough for you? What would you rather they do within the scope of a SMO and not full scale war when air dominance is still in question because of the sheer amount of MANPADS/SAMs Ukraine is wielding?

It’s not a quiet secret that a lot of Ukraine-supporting nations gave out more equipment than they should have should this war turn worldwide. The UK never had a lot to begin with from the past 20 years of Conservative rule gutting the armed forces, and Germany never had a lot because Ursula put the military to building comfy barracks instead of maintaining readiness before she left to wind up the EU. The fact is that Europe was in the middle of life-extensions for their weapon systems instead of arming up appropriately to deter aggression on the continent, and we’ve ended up in that 1939-esque position of appeasement. “Putin can have Crimea, it’s Russian anyway. Putin can have Donbass and Luhansk, it’s Russian anyway. Well Ukraine is a made up country anyway and none of our people are dying whilst Russia grinds down” levels of media cope because everyone wants to turn a blind eye to a well trained and experienced Spanish-Civil War (wait, wrong one) army on their doorstep. Journalism is a disgrace and is it any wonder people venture to telegram or 4chan to get their news (eh @p0rtvgal ? :P ). Regardless, Finlands position is exactly why Russia must now force Ukraine into giving them the DPR/LPR. There are no more buffer states left from the evil of NATO, either through Russian action or inaction.

Well it was definitely a revolution, so yes a coup. We’ve seen it time and time again since the fall of the USSR there - the geographical split almost down the center of the country where one (richer) half wants to be Europe and the rurals and East want to remain Russian. Frankly, I cant believe it took until 2014 for a full blown civil war over it.

Tell that to Germany, Ireland, France, Italy, the UK, and Turkey. Europe is still as fractured as ever, and even when under attack they still cant agree on how to handle Ukraine.

That wasn’t Ocean Points' argument, so moving the goalposts is disingenuous and I'm disappointed in you. If violence is all that matters, then I presume you want Russia and America to drop all pretence of civility and just nuke every major civilian population center and we can go from there?

This should be a damn status quo for y'all college dissertations, put them in spoilers. Too tired to scroll through what is the equivalent of unfiled researchgate.net , go spoiler your essays

P0rtvgal, The Iron Stars, Chalybea, Krich aerd, and 1 otherOcean point

Tobosarsk wrote:This should be a damn status quo for y'all college dissertations, put them in spoilers. Too tired to scroll through what is the equivalent of unfiled researchgate.net , go spoiler your essays

Atsuria making me write a thesis on Russian apologism smh

I just like a good scrap and want the truth to be known

P0rtvgal, Atsuria, Chalybea, Krich aerd, and 1 otherLaka Strolistandiler

The Iron Stars wrote:Atsuria making me write a thesis on Russian apologism smh

I just like a good scrap and want the truth to be known

Duh hurrr poor Donbass people being genocided! Truly the war has ended it!

P0rtvgal, Atsuria, and The Iron Stars

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