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Koranvistan wrote:I said shouldn't

Er, meant

Koranvistan wrote:I said shouldn't

Sorry I'm confused.

Old utopia wrote:"So giving Rednedonia independence? Ok. Perhaps we should hear Tresti's point of view."

"Hmm. The Problem is that I am not the one to decide. The GS and, in the end, Lejine have to. I doubt they are willing to give them independence. Imagine you would have to give up some territory because of a rebellion fueled by lies and bad will, after all, we are a democratic nation and those rebels could just found a party and hope for the best"

Free Toast wrote:"Hmm. The Problem is that I am not the one to decide. The GS and, in the end, Lejine have to. I doubt they are willing to give them independence. Imagine you would have to give up some territory because of a rebellion fueled by lies and bad will, after all, we are a democratic nation and those rebels could just found a party and hope for the best"

"Lies and bad will? Please, elaborate."

Old utopia wrote:"Lies and bad will? Please, elaborate."

"The Rebels claim that Toast forced Rednedonia to give up their rights to decide things. The Military Intervention was necessary because we discovered evidence that Stalenjor, their former leader, planned to seize power. After the Intervention we decided that the UCSR shall have elections and a parliament, so Rednedonia has actually been saved from Stalenjors plans to become a dictator and has been given democracy."

Also, I have to go for about an hour

Free Toast wrote:"The Rebels claim that Toast forced Rednedonia to give up their rights to decide things. The Military Intervention was necessary because we discovered evidence that Stalenjor, their former leader, planned to seize power. After the Intervention we decided that the UCSR shall have elections and a parliament, so Rednedonia has actually been saved from Stalenjors plans to become a dictator and has been given democracy."

Also, I have to go for about an hour

"I see. So if your government is democratic, why not let the Rednedonians decide if they want to stay or not?"

Brotherhood for life and That vault boy

Telders

Snowylan wrote:Andrew McSnowy nods to acknowledge their arrival at the conference.
(presuming it is all in one room)

The Telderi delegation has arrived to Kanton Inu and walks to the door to greet Bernado and Biel.

Old utopia

Telders wrote:The Telderi delegation has arrived to Kanton Inu and walks to the door to greet Bernado and Biel.

Old utopia

Biel says for him to take a seat.

Old utopia wrote:Biel says for him to take a seat.

The delegation takes a seat.

Telders wrote:The delegation takes a seat.

"Now, delegate we are currently deciding what to do wit the situation in Rednedonia."

Koranvistan wrote:I must go

I have to go in 2 minutes too.

Telders

Old utopia wrote:"Now, delegate we are currently deciding what to do wit the situation in Rednedonia."

"The Queen has given her statements to parliament before she left to Manuaq that the UCSR or whatever those chaps call themselves should keep Rednedonia as the Rednedonians accepted the proposal by Toast and know what was going to happen, We believe that Toast is right in what they say and Stalenjor attempted to take power within The UCSR."

Telders wrote:"The Queen has given her statements to parliament before she left to Manuaq that the UCSR or whatever those chaps call themselves should keep Rednedonia as the Rednedonians accepted the proposal by Toast and know what was going to happen, We believe that Toast is right in what they say and Stalenjor attempted to take power within The UCSR."

"No, I don't think they did. They accepted, thinking they would keep their rights but Free Toast used Stalenjor as an excuse to take away their rights. Whether Stalenjor attempted to take power or not, they should not be punished and have their rights taken away. I think Free Toast should keep Rednedonia but give its people back their rights."

Old utopia wrote:"No, I don't think they did. They accepted, thinking they would keep their rights but Free Toast used Stalenjor as an excuse to take away their rights. Whether Stalenjor attempted to take power or not, they should not be punished and have their rights taken away. I think Free Toast should keep Rednedonia but give its people back their rights."

"Hmm, we agree I think Rednedonia should remain under free toastian power but the people should get its rights back but limited."

Old utopia wrote:Soon they arrive at Kanton Inu. They are lead into the Kantonic chateau, where the meeting is currently taking place. They are greeted by Biel and Bernado who ask them to take a seat.

(my president is already present by then)

Old utopia wrote:"So giving Rednedonia independence? Ok. Perhaps we should hear Tresti's point of view."

Havensor speaks up: "It certainly seems that is what they want. I have seen the way that these revolts go... they will not stop until independence is given."

Free Toast wrote:"The Rebels claim that Toast forced Rednedonia to give up their rights to decide things. The Military Intervention was necessary because we discovered evidence that Stalenjor, their former leader, planned to seize power. After the Intervention we decided that the UCSR shall have elections and a parliament, so Rednedonia has actually been saved from Stalenjors plans to become a dictator and has been given democracy."

Also, I have to go for about an hour

Another NRR delegate nearby is furious and pipes up: "He did not do anything, he was simply too busy managing the affairs of the nation! We were trying to strengthen the union and make ourselves into a regional power, but then you went ahead spreading lies! Tell me, would a true-blooded Rednedonian ever do such a thing?!"

Telders wrote:"Hmm, we agree I think Rednedonia should remain under free toastian power but the people should get its rights back but limited."

"Why limited?"

Rednedonia wrote:(my president is already present by then)Havensor speaks up: "It certainly seems that is what they want. I have seen the way that these revolts go... they will not stop until independence is given."Another NRR delegate nearby is furious and pipes up: "He did not do anything, he was simply too busy managing the affairs of the nation! We were trying to strengthen the union and make ourselves into a regional power, but then you went ahead spreading lies! Tell me, would a true-blooded Rednedonian ever do such a thing?!"

"Now now, calm down."

Old utopia wrote:"Now now, calm down."

Havensor: "I believe it is best if you calm down... we will find a solution that will be acceptable to all of our countrymen."
NRR Delegate: "Yes, of course... but i can tell you from what i've seen, these people will not accept still being part of the UCSR. They want freedom, and they will stop at nothing to get it forever."

Old utopia wrote:"I see. So if your government is democratic, why not let the Rednedonians decide if they want to stay or not?"

"A good idea, but I fear that both sides would try to manipulate it and I believe many would be too scared of consequences by the TBSV if they vote for leaving.

Rednedonia wrote:Another NRR delegate nearby is furious and pipes up: "He did not do anything, he was simply too busy managing the affairs of the nation! We were trying to strengthen the union and make ourselves into a regional power, but then you went ahead spreading lies! Tell me, would a true-blooded Rednedonian ever do such a thing?!"

"A TWP member answers: "Well how could you know? You are the Delegate of a Nation that consists mostly of Rednedonians but got founded several months before the Intervention. If you are a high-rank you almost have to be one of the first settlers and by that cant know anything about Stalenjors plans."

Old utopia wrote:"Why limited?"

"Because they could maybe try to break way from UCSR"

Telders wrote:"Because they could maybe try to break way from UCSR"

"And rights would give them that? I don't think so. I'm just saying the freedom of speech and press would be nice."

Brotherhood for life and That vault boy

The Regent of Snowylan Johnny Doe McSnowy has declared the training of 400,000 men into the Snowylanian army. He has entitled this move as a way of ensuring the stability, and safety of Snowylan and her allies

Brotherhood for life and That vault boy

Ivorican diplomats and president arrive in Old Utopia.
Crisis on Elsa and Peter Island!
The old dictator is leading a army of 1k soldiers to Ivorica to retake his land.

Free Toast wrote:"A good idea, but I fear that both sides would try to manipulate it and I believe many would be too scared of consequences by the TBSV if they vote for leaving.

"A TWP member answers: "Well how could you know? You are the Delegate of a Nation that consists mostly of Rednedonians but got founded several months before the Intervention. If you are a high-rank you almost have to be one of the first settlers and by that cant know anything about Stalenjors plans."

The delegate gets up to respond, but Havensor sits him back down.
Havensor: "I understand your point, but with all due respect, us Rednedonians were a humble and peaceful people until you came along and took over our homeland. After all we have been through, our brethren in the homeland have every right to protest against your rule and the tyrannical method of forcing people to believe your ways. I believe that you should just give them their independence and settle this whole problem. The choice of what belief system and government they live by should be theirs."

Brotherhood for life and That vault boy

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