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The Serene Forest of Suternia

5 years 40 days ago

Allishive wrote:

Thenk yu

Also can someone tell me why the region is on lockdown?

The NWA Government is in shutdown because of puppet voting. The National Party OWNS this shutdown!

United soviet states of russian empire, Allishive, Ravennog, and United cascadian peoples

Allishive

5 years 40 days ago

Suternia wrote:

The NWA Government is in shutdown because of puppet voting. The National Party OWNS this shutdown!

Government shutdown? Pretty sure it's just the region m8

Bergonnia and Suternia

Banana man154

5 years 40 days ago

Allishive wrote:

Government shutdown? Pretty sure it's just the region m8

Seeing as how it is password protected I have shut down api, the Immigration Ministry is on a full shutdown.

Allishive

5 years 40 days ago

Banana man154 wrote:

Seeing as how it is password protected I have shut down api, the Immigration Ministry is on a full shutdown.

Good thing I haven't recruited today :P

The Socialist Federal Republic of Communaccord

5 years 40 days ago

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Josephtan wrote:

puppet voting

I have a rather simple solution to puppet voting, but it would trigger about 40% of people:

Just enforce the WA requirement more strictly.

It wouldn’t mean everyone in the region is mandated to have a WA membership to vote, it just means that we should maybe greatly reduce the leniency, only allowing for those whose WA is in another region, and a small handful of long time and respected non WA citizen, with (what should be) a rather small list of those falling into these categories.

The fact that we have such a large amount of non WA voting, many of whom are by no means “long time veterans” or in possession of some other validation that they are indeed real people, should be great cause for concern and alarm. We already had one instance of confessed puppet voting in the winter general election last year, only detected due to the perpetrator coming clean on their own volition.

While the recent surge of fraud was obvious and preventable, the possibility that numerous puppets may be participating in elections regularly, without discovery, shows that the integrity of our elections may be compromised, unless deliberate action is taken.

Baconbacon123, Ormantum, Calponia, Tyranogorgon, and 2 othersTorhaven, and Suternia

The Democratic States of Josephtan

5 years 40 days ago

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Communaccord wrote:

I have a rather simple solution to puppet voting, but it would trigger about 40% of people:

Just enforce the WA requirement more strictly.

It wouldn’t mean everyone in the region is mandated to have a WA membership to vote, it just means that we should maybe greatly reduce the leniency, only allowing for those whose WA is in another region, and a small handful of long time and respected non WA citizen, with (what should be) a rather small list of those falling into these categories.

The fact that we have such a large amount of non WA voting, many of whom are by no means “long time veterans” or in possession of some other validation that they are indeed real people, should be great cause for concern and alarm. We already had one instance of confessed puppet voting in the winter general election last year, only detected due to the perpetrator coming clean on their own volition.

While the recent surge of fraud was obvious and preventable, the possibility that numerous puppets may be participating in elections regularly, without discovery, shows that the integrity of our elections may be compromised, unless deliberate action is taken.

"⯁ The Liberal Democrats realize that puppet voting exists, but also we understand that it is becoming less common, therefore we support our current election method but believe that reform is needed."
Updated version(MY opinion):
The Liberal Democrats realize that puppet voting exists, but also we understand that it is becoming less common(But lately has become a little more common), so we support some measures of electoral reform.

Tyranogorgon and The thin white duke

Allishive

5 years 40 days ago

Communaccord wrote:

I have a rather simple solution to puppet voting, but it would trigger about 40% of people:

Just enforce the WA requirement more strictly.

It wouldn’t mean everyone in the region is mandated to have a WA membership to vote, it just means that we should maybe greatly reduce the leniency, only allowing for those whose WA is in another region, and a small handful of long time and respected non WA citizen, with (what should be) a rather small list of those falling into these categories.

The fact that we have such a large amount of non WA voting, many of whom are by no means “long time veterans” or in possession of some other validation that they are indeed real people, should be great cause for concern and alarm. We already had one instance of confessed puppet voting in the winter general election last year, only detected due to the perpetrator coming clean on their own volition.

While the recent surge of fraud was obvious and preventable, the possibility that numerous puppets may be participating in elections regularly, without discovery, shows that the integrity of our elections may be compromised, unless deliberate action is taken.

Easier said than done. Some people either can't be in the WA for...reasons, and some people simply just don't want to be in the WA. If we enforced the WA citizenship more strictly it would be harder for non-puppet non-WA nations to get pardons because we'd practically be fraught with the idea of puppet voting

The Democratic States of Josephtan

5 years 40 days ago

Allishive wrote:

Easier said than done. Some people either can't be in the WA for...reasons, and some people simply just don't want to be in the WA. If we enforced the WA citizenship more strictly it would be harder for non-puppet non-WA nations to get pardons because we'd practically be fraught with the idea of puppet voting

You should really put some air quotes in those “reasons"( I mean the only other reason I can think of other than I don't want to join is RP and that's it)

The thin white duke

Tkae

5 years 40 days ago

Communaccord wrote:

I have a rather simple solution to puppet voting, but it would trigger about 40% of people:

Just enforce the WA requirement more strictly.

It wouldn’t mean everyone in the region is mandated to have a WA membership to vote, it just means that we should maybe greatly reduce the leniency, only allowing for those whose WA is in another region, and a small handful of long time and respected non WA citizen, with (what should be) a rather small list of those falling into these categories.

The fact that we have such a large amount of non WA voting, many of whom are by no means “long time veterans” or in possession of some other validation that they are indeed real people, should be great cause for concern and alarm. We already had one instance of confessed puppet voting in the winter general election last year, only detected due to the perpetrator coming clean on their own volition.

While the recent surge of fraud was obvious and preventable, the possibility that numerous puppets may be participating in elections regularly, without discovery, shows that the integrity of our elections may be compromised, unless deliberate action is taken.

I use my puppet nation for my WA membership to protect the policy purity of my main nation. So that would mean bringing a puppet to the region just to meet the WA requirement.

Your mind magic won't work on me, mind magician.

Tyranogorgon and The thin white duke

Allishive

5 years 40 days ago

Josephtan wrote:

You should really put some air quotes in those “reasons"( I mean the only other reason I can think of other than I don't want to join is RP and that's it)

My reason is complicated, but it has the words "outdated Apple device" and "no email access because of it" involved

Tyranogorgon

The Democratic States of Josephtan

5 years 40 days ago

Allishive wrote:

My reason is complicated, but it has the words "outdated Apple device" and "no email access because of it" involved

there are always exceptions to the rule

Allishive and Tyranogorgon

Anime crusader

5 years 40 days ago

Since everyone is declaring them selves to be Acting chairman, and trying to coup a party....

I am the Acting member of the Activist, and yes I mean member I am going to be umm the best Acting member in all of NS let's all get our Act together, and vote for the Activist ;)

Bergonnia, Northern timena, and Torhaven

Zatanga

5 years 40 days ago

Edited

Oof we’re no longer at 600. Sad. :(

Tyranogorgon

The 3rd swedish empire

5 years 40 days ago

Zatanga wrote:

Oof we’re no longer at 600. Sad. :(

Really sad

Zatanga, Tyranogorgon, and Torhaven

Robulov

5 years 40 days ago

Licavoliton wrote:

I move to create a new National Party with competent leadership I see that the old National party is too tainted to be a viable party.

The National party shall continue to exist.
Under my lead our current member list shall be updated today.

Allishive

5 years 40 days ago

Robulov wrote:

The National party shall continue to exist.
Under my lead our current member list shall be updated today.

Under your lead? M8 you aren't even in the member list

Barlonatar, Torhaven, and Suternia

The 3rd swedish empire

5 years 40 days ago

Robulov wrote:

The National party shall continue to exist.
Under my lead our current member list shall be updated today.

How many times do I have to tell you? YOU ARE NOT IN CHARGE OF THE NATIONAL PARTY

Allishive, Barlonatar, Angea, Suternia, and 1 otherSainoland

The Sovereign Rule of Aestorn

5 years 40 days ago

NazBol not being in senate election is a crime. I will sue the Poll Maker for this

Risastorstein, Angea, and Suternia

The Infinite Empire of Angea

5 years 40 days ago

Aestorn wrote:

NazBol not being in senate election is a crime. I will sue the Poll Maker for this

damn right lad

Risastorstein, Aestorn, and Torhaven

Post self-deleted by Barlonatar.

Northern timena

5 years 40 days ago

Sadly because of the accusations of bribing Robulov for votes and unbanning Lalop and giving him a seat, I will be withdrawing my vote in the election until GR publicly gives us answers.

Risastorstein, Allishive, and Torhaven

The 3rd swedish empire

5 years 40 days ago

Barlonatar wrote:

How do I join the National Party?

Just telegram Grand rebels, but I wouldn’t join National because the leader is super ineffective

Risastorstein and Communaccord

The 3rd swedish empire

5 years 40 days ago

Northern timena wrote:

Sadly because of the accusations of bribing Robulov for votes and unbanning Lalop and giving him a seat, I will be withdrawing my vote in the election until GR publicly gives us answers.

Vote Constructivist

Calponia

The Serene Forest of Suternia

5 years 40 days ago

Aestorn wrote:

NazBol not being in senate election is a crime. I will sue the Poll Maker for this

The Unity Party pledges its support to the nazbol cause

Allishive and Aestorn

Northern timena

5 years 40 days ago

The 3rd swedish empire wrote:

Vote Constructivist