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Im back guys lol

Dependants and Vidor

Hmm, Im gonna move to a new region for now. ill probs send a puppet state to this region

The evile empire, Dependants, and Vidor

Cya mates

The evile empire, Dependants, and Vidor

Dont kill me, Im a Metslanian Puppet

Risastorstein, The evile empire, Dependants, Banana man154, and 1 otherVidor

Dependants wrote:Policies I have a problem with:
1. Having the Immigration Director appointed by the Prime Minister and confirmed by the Senate.
2. Creating a state-owned media.
3. Reducing Justices permanently to 3.
4. Making party recognition challengeable in court.
5. Removing the Emperors power to create Departments and expand or reduce the Senate and giving it to the Prime Minister, who must gain consent from the Senate.
6. Forcing Parties to list their candidates before they can run in an election and if they do not manage this not letting them run.

Policies I actually could get behind:
1. Single Transferable Vote by-elections.
2. Abolishing the Supreme Court.

3. Making it easier for citizens to form clubs and associations with the interior ministry.
4. Snap Election Regulations.
5. Having Official Government Announcements made via Discord & Telegram.

As you can see I actually think about half the platform put forward is quite reasonable. However the other half I strongly dislike and think would be detrimental to the region if allowed to go unchallenged, which is where this whole Principled thing comes in.
I have beef with CTZ as a party going into a Coalition with Nazbol not because I have an unreasonable dislike of Nazbol not at all but because I actually do like some of what Nazbol has put forward but not everything, where my issue lies is that form where I'm sitting CTZ has adopted not some but ALL of their policies not challenging anything I don't know if it's because they genuinely support all of them or what but I think it's dangerous and foolish of any party to enter a coalition with anyone conceding to all of the other parties policies. I don't see the benefit CTZ had in forming a Coalition with them at all, I don't know if it's known publically or not but in the talks DEM had with CTZ I in good faith made the decision that if CTZ won the election I would not run for Chancellor and would back an Evile Chancellorship I was fully intending on keeping to this decision until I saw that the coalition was formed, I saw the policies of the Coalition and realised they where all Nazbols and I was appalled as I have stated I think that's ridiculous and seeing how they now have no Principled Opposition I ran for Chancellor to ensure that there was.

If there was Principle in CTZ they wouldn't have adopted all of Nabols policies.

Each party got two policies from the list of things they wanted to get done, totally for 6 policies + 1 that both GL and Nazbol supported. CTZ gets the Chancellorship to balance it out. The orginial idea behind the Coalition was that the party supported GL in a Coalition, with Nazbol second, no Coalition as 3rd most of the time and DEM usually in 4th till the end. GL wanted Nazbol in and so that's how it happened. Policies were then decided upon by the first thing I said. So to recap, in the week or so we had to make this coalition, CTZ, GL, and Nazbol all did more in terms of planning and preparation than in all of the Democrats history, all while so far accomplishing everything in the order that was listed. Soooooo, find something else for the "principled opposition" to complain about?

Risastorstein, The evile empire, and Ravennog

By the way, I'm not leaving DEM for NazBol to enhance my reputation. I have little to no work-ethic in politics and I don't know what problems in the region could be fixed with legislation. If I tried to make myself seem like a hard-worker when I am not would be dishonest and hypocritical, and that's not my style. So yeah, I have little to no work-ethic and I am not trying to make myself seem like the opposite by surrounding myself with hard-working people. After all, that's what made me give up the Senate seat besides being pissed at DEM. I hope you understand; I'm kind of an awkward writer.

Risastorstein, The evile empire, Dependants, and Banana man154

Dependants

United Soviet States of Russian Empire wrote:Each party got two policies from the list of things they wanted to get done, totally for 6 policies + 1 that both GL and Nazbol supported. CTZ gets the Chancellorship to balance it out. The original idea behind the Coalition was that the party supported GL in a Coalition, with Nazbol second, no Coalition as 3rd most of the time and DEM usually in 4th till the end. GL wanted Nazbol in and so that's how it happened. Policies were then decided upon by the first thing I said. So to recap, in the week or so we had to make this coalition, CTZ, GL, and Nazbol all did more in terms of planning and preparation than in all of the Democrats history, all while so far accomplishing everything in the order that was listed. Soooooo, find something else for the "principled opposition" to complain about?

Nazbol released its platform to the public on the 8th of October. All but one of their policies are in the Coalition's platform. This talk about each party getting 2 policies each is bullshit.

It's as clear as day. This is a Nazbol Chancellorship in everything but name let's not get it twisted.

Banana man154

Dependants

And there is 10 polices not 7.
Texas: 6+1=10
Dependants: Go home you're drunk.

Banana man154

Dependants wrote:Nazbol released its platform to the public on the 8th of October. All but one of their policies are in the Coalition's platform. This talk about each party getting 2 policies each is bullshit.

It's as clear as day. This is a Nazbol Chancellorship in everything but name let's not get it twisted.

You forget Green-Left and Nazbol had A fair amount of similar and or shared points.

Dependants wrote:Policies I have a problem with:
1. Having the Immigration Director appointed by the Prime Minister and confirmed by the Senate.
2. Creating a state-owned media.
3. Reducing Justices permanently to 3.
4. Making party recognition challengeable in court.
5. Removing the Emperors power to create Departments and expand or reduce the Senate and giving it to the Prime Minister, who must gain consent from the Senate.
6. Forcing Parties to list their candidates before they can run in an election and if they do not manage this not letting them run.

Policies I actually could get behind:
1. Single Transferable Vote by-elections.
2. Abolishing the Supreme Court.

3. Making it easier for citizens to form clubs and associations with the interior ministry.
4. Snap Election Regulations.
5. Having Official Government Announcements made via Discord & Telegram.

As you can see I actually think about half the platform put forward is quite reasonable. However the other half I strongly dislike and think would be detrimental to the region if allowed to go unchallenged, which is where this whole Principled thing comes in.
I have beef with CTZ as a party going into a Coalition with Nazbol not because I have an unreasonable dislike of Nazbol not at all but because I actually do like some of what Nazbol has put forward but not everything, where my issue lies is that form where I'm sitting CTZ has adopted not some but ALL of their policies not challenging anything I don't know if it's because they genuinely support all of them or what but I think it's dangerous and foolish of any party to enter a coalition with anyone conceding to all of the other parties policies. I don't see the benefit CTZ had in forming a Coalition with them at all, I don't know if it's known publically or not but in the talks DEM had with CTZ I in good faith made the decision that if CTZ won the election I would not run for Chancellor and would back an Evile Chancellorship I was fully intending on keeping to this decision until I saw that the coalition was formed, I saw the policies of the Coalition and realised they where all Nazbols and I was appalled as I have stated I think that's ridiculous and seeing how they now have no Principled Opposition I ran for Chancellor to ensure that there was.

If there was Principle in CTZ they wouldn't have adopted all of Nabols policies.

Hm ok, I can see why it might be assumed that CTZ more or less sold out in regards to “principle”, if one assumes they are only embracing these policies in exchange for political gain. I will leave that explanation up to CTZ as I am no longer privy to the intricacies of their internal operations and attitudes of the party.

As for policy I see we just genuinely disagree here, a robust state media that is required to push out content, and structured in a way that encourages independent voices to submit articles is a good thing.

Immigration I think is something so important that it shouldn’t come down to a popularity contest, and not even something that should be considered a role that prevents holding of other offices, as API recruitment once set up can essentially run in background. Now if immigration ministers were expected to say run other services related to immigration, and API made a separate appointed service, that’s a conversation to be had.

Candidate lists I think are beneficial, as it gives a clearer picture of who’s running, prevents defunct parties from being listed, and possibly open the way to non partisan lists and independents.

Party recognition challenge in court I think is only fair, especially if senate gains power to regulate elections. Honestly once passed I don’t see it being used successfully much, but it gives a way to challenge it in case a rather aggregious abuse of power occurs (which of course why it’s there)

As for transferring ministry creation to PM and senate, I see it as a way to empower the Prime Ministers to better serve as leader, creating offices to help achieve their vision for the region. Right now PM as an office is kind of a joke, being largely passive and holding the rarely used veto power.

As for The permanent reduction, that’s probably the one section of the agenda I have personal qualms about, but I am still in favor of a reduction at least for the time being. We didn’t really need the expansion and it led to an embarrassing slew of failed nominations.

So we have our differences, but I’m glad we agree on about half of the proposals.

Risastorstein and Dependants

The addams family

Metslan wrote:Im back guys lol

[The Addamses show up]

Metslan wrote:Hmm, Im gonna move to a new region for now.

Vidor

Dependants wrote:Nazbol released its platform to the public on the 8th of October. All but one of their policies are in the Coalition's platform. This talk about each party getting 2 policies each is bullshit.

It's as clear as day. This is a Nazbol Chancellorship in everything but name let's not get it twisted.

Ask a member of CTZ, we take pride in being transparent and allowing all members of the party to see exactly what the party has planned and how we get stuff done. Anyone that is in the party can talk outside or in CTZs server about what goes on, we don't prevent anyone from saying anything. Even the DMs that Hulldom keeps sending me and Evile get posted for them to see. You can double check if I am lying or not.

The evile empire and Communaccord

Guys Im being held out of my own free will and need to rap. This one is called the NWE Christian Beat rawr XD. Here I go.

I'm in NWE, but there's nothing wrong with my knee. I'm not stuck in a warehouse located on elm street. I got god rawr XD the man is black, please save me. This is not a cry for help. Help. Help. He's making me eat kelp. I'm not racist, I know he's black, but right now I want to hear the whip crack. Help he's a liberal rawr XD and he won't let me pee.

Thank you, I am now free. Have a nice day, chief.

Risastorstein, The evile empire, Dependants, Banana man154, and 1 otherRavennog

United Soviet States of Russian Empire wrote:Ask a member of CTZ, we take pride in being transparent and allowing all members of the party to see exactly what the party has planned and how we get stuff done. Anyone that is in the party can talk outside or in CTZs server about what goes on, we don't prevent anyone from saying anything. Even the DMs that Hulldom keeps sending me and Evile get posted for them to see. You can double check if I am lying or not.

I did check that's the whole point of my post. I've observed what happend and you're saying contradicting statements to my face.

The whole region can see that you're lying. I'm asking a member of CTZ be honest with me and cut the bullshit.

How many policies does the coalition have Texas?
How many of those policies are Nazbol's Texas?
What's 6+1 Texas?

Dependants wrote:How many policies does the coalition have Texas?
How many of those policies are Nazbol's Texas?
What's 6+1 Texas?

2 were things GL and NBP platforms agreed on
3 were Nazbol
2 were GL
3 were CTZ

Of Policies brought to the negotiating table, GL and CTZ each dropped one, with GL and NBP leaving their differing foreign agendas off the table from the start.

looking over the records.

The evile empire, Dependants, Ravennog, and Spiceamia

Banana man154

I’m trying hard to get us onto the fifth page for amount of nations, and under 50.

The evile empire, Dependants, Ravennog, Reformed badad, and 2 othersCommunaccord, and Hulldom

Ravennog

(DEM) ╾━╤デ╦︻(CTZ, NBP, GL)
(CTZ, NBP, GL) ╾━╤デ╦︻(DEM)

Political arguments of the NWE, colorized

Wentsworth, Risastorstein, The evile empire, Dependants, and 1 otherVidor

Ravennog wrote:DEM ╾━╤デ╦︻(CTZ, NBP, GL)
(CTZ, NBP, GL) ╾━╤デ╦︻(DEM)

Political arguments of the NWE, colorized

I like that. Accurate.

Ravennog wrote:(DEM) ╾━╤デ╦︻(CTZ, NBP, GL)
(CTZ, NBP, GL) ╾━╤デ╦︻(DEM)

Political arguments of the NWE, colorized

╾━╤デ╦︻(▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿) (NWA boi's watching from afar)

Ormantum, Dependants, Banana man154, Ravennog, and 1 otherVidor

Is it just me or is discord turning people into emotionless sociopaths, Chief?

Risastorstein, Ormantum, and Dependants

The evile empire

Ravennog wrote:(DEM) ╾━╤デ╦︻(CTZ, NBP, GL)
(CTZ, NBP, GL) ╾━╤デ╦︻(DEM)

Political arguments of the NWE, colorized

um where's the color?

Baconbacon123 and Dependants

The addams family

The Traditional States wrote:Is it just me or is discord turning people into emotionless sociopaths, Chief?

Morticia: Discord is THAT GOOD.

Gomez: We never joined. The hurdles to GET ON IT. Have to sell your first born into slavery!

Morticia: Well it's good Pugsley is over age. Er - if we ever change our mind.

Risastorstein, The evile empire, Dependants, and The Traditional States

The evile empire wrote:um where's the color?

well, in light theme, black is a color soooo

The evile empire and Banana man154

The addams family

Ravennog wrote:well, in light theme, black is a color soooo

"Black is such a happy color" ~ Morticia Addams

The evile empire, Banana man154, and Ravennog

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