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Unionized california

Hello everyone. I’m not new here (not to nationstates, just the region) and I wanted to know if it is an active region.

Syndicalia

Unionized california wrote:Hello everyone. I’m not new here (not to nationstates, just the region) and I wanted to know if it is an active region.

Not anymore sadly :(

Cela wrote:As a communist, my position is always with the proletariat. And for this reason I cannot support Putin and his fascist rhetoric no more than I can support Ukraine and their fascist. I'm not going to pick sides when the capitalist and imperialist are fighting each other. That being said, I also don't subscribe to the narrative that Russia started this war. Ukraine has been bombing and killing Russian-speaking people in the east for 8 years. But I don't believe Putin genuinely cares, like all capitalist I think he's an opportunist. Putin is lying and NATO is lying, that's the way I see this.

Russia started this war in 2014, I stand with Ukriane and the Ukrianian people defending themselves from imperialism. Russia is the aggressor and all anti imperialist should support the Ukrianian peoples right to self determination.

Syndicalia and Lol we suck

How do y'all respond to the Born to be My Baby issue?

Syndicalia

Cela wrote:As a communist, my position is always with the proletariat. And for this reason I cannot support Putin and his fascist rhetoric no more than I can support Ukraine and their fascist. I'm not going to pick sides when the capitalist and imperialist are fighting each other. That being said, I also don't subscribe to the narrative that Russia started this war. Ukraine has been bombing and killing Russian-speaking people in the east for 8 years. But I don't believe Putin genuinely cares, like all capitalist I think he's an opportunist. Putin is lying and NATO is lying, that's the way I see this.

This, while Putin instigated this heinous war, we cannot forget that NATO and most specifically, the US continued to posture offering an empty promise to Ukraine as if poking the Russian Bear. Besides, anyone who has read Lenin's thoughts on World War I would understand, that a war involving imperial powers, does not serve the interest of the working class. What matters is the lives of all Russian and Ukrainian ordinary folks, not their oligarchs or their leaders or what the West cares for. We cannot also support the Ukrainian government or Right Sector or the Azov Battalion for obvious reasons, not after they've also banned the Russian language from being utilized by ethnic Russians in Ukraine. It's odd that any self-proclaimed ML would call themselves such if they support Russia, while I can see why, it is as blind as a liberal thinking USAID and NATO are forces for good in the world. No nostalgia, no longing, will topple Russias capitalist oligarchy, the USSR is long dead.

NO WAR BUT CLASS WAR!

Syndicalia

Lol we suck

Russia is bombing civilian targets and invading Ukraine. NATO is not doing this. According your logic both sides are bad

Cela wrote:I stand in solidarity of the Ukrainian proletariat who are feeling the brunt of Putin's aggression, but I DO NOT support the fascist government of Ukraine nor the neo-Nazi Azoz Battalion. Nor do I support the aggression of the Ukrainian government against it's own citizens in Eastern Ukraine that has been on-going for 8 years. Down with Putin's anti-communist, war-mongering regime! Down with Ukranian Nazis! Down with NATO and all it's members!

It's socialism or barbarism.

Ukraine and NATO members are democracy remember that democracys need the support of everone. Also Russia backed the insurgency in the Donbass.

Nan mologa

Lol we suck wrote:Ukraine and NATO members are democracy remember that democracys need the support of everone. Also Russia backed the insurgency in the Donbass.

You're grossly ignorant of modernity and history if you genuinely think NATO is a democratic force for good. NATO had the Greek Junta, the Portuguese Fascist Dictatorship, others. NATO is complicit in bombings, abiding genocide, all for an imperialist project. Ukraine before the current conflict, was recognized as one of the most corrupt countries in Eastern Europe! The Ukrainian government banned the Russian language for Ethnic Russians in Ukraine! The US has been for 8 years prior fomenting and supporting Azov, Right Sector, Svoboda as a bulwark against Russia breeding Rusophobia!!!

AN ENTIRE TOWN WAS GOVERNED BY A NEO-NAZI MAYOR!!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! WE SHOULD NOT TOLERATE FASCISM EVER! NOT FROM THE EAST, NOT FROM THE WEST!!! THAT IS WHAT "NO WAR BUT CLASS WAR" MEANS YOU FASCIST!!!!!

NO ONE IS SAYING WHAT RUSSIA IS DOING IS JUSTIFIED! IT IS CRUEL! BUT WHAT UKRAINE IS DOING BY NOT PRIORITIZING THE LIVES OF ITS CITIZENS AND CONTINUING A WAR THAT WILL END IN A PYRRHIC VICTORY FOR ONE OR THE OTHER?! AT WHAT END!? WHEN THE US OR EUROPE DON'T REALLY CARE?!

Lol we suck

NATO is better than russia

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Lol we suck

saying NATO is better than Russia is fascist then

Lol we suck wrote:saying NATO is better than Russia is fascist then

So you approve of their bombing of Yugoslavia (Bosnia-Herzegovinia)? Of Afghanistan? Of their tolerance of Fascist dictatorships? Of the global hegemony that harms those not born in the first world?

Eh this is inactive
Imma go find another leftist region
Bye comrades

Syndicalia

Supremeoslavia

rip

Supremeoslavia wrote:rip

didn't expect this

rip this region

Nan mologa wrote:So you approve of their bombing of Yugoslavia (Bosnia-Herzegovinia)? Of Afghanistan? Of their tolerance of Fascist dictatorships? Of the global hegemony that harms those not born in the first world?

Someone observant enough to reject the current propoganda

rip

NATO is shi

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