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Results:
Aye (5) Ashlawn Dendrobium Ermica Pap sculgief Sevae
Nay (1) Toerana V
Abstain (2) Cerdenia Emazia

The Treaty has passed.

Senators, we have begun debate on the Removal of Shadow Positions and Caucuses Act.

Removal of Shadow Positions and Caucuses Act
Authors: Pap sculgief
Sponsors: Pap sculgief, Dendrobium

Preamble:

Understanding that in both chambers of Thaecian Congress, the positions of Deputy and Shadow Speaker/Chairman both co-exist;

Believing that the position of Deputy has provided more back-up and emergency support to the Speaker/Chairman than the position of Shadow;

Recognising that the positions of Shadow Speaker or Chairman were designed and introduced to compensate for a political climate that was focused on 'majority vs opposition' in the chambers of congress, however that political climate is no longer present;

Considering that if that is the case, then there is a lack of need for official recognition of caucuses and caucus leaders as well

Congress hereby agrees:


i. Repeals LR.027 The Shadow Speaker Act

i. Removes Articles VI and VII from LR.024 The House Procedures Act
ii. Renames all following articles to VII in LR.024 to fit accordingly

i. Removes Article VI from LR.037 Senate Procedures Act
ii. Renames all following articles to VI in LR.037 to fit accordingly

i. As stated in LR.024 and LR.037, due to this bill amending procedures in both chambers of congress, this bill requires a 2/3rds majority in both chambers of Congress in order for it pass

Read dispatch

let's vote for it and get this over with quickly

Edit: actually let's table it again and remove forever, it's a waste of time

Senators, the above bill has been tabled and we have begun debate on the Positions Restrictions Reform Act (2021).



Positions Restrictions Reform Act (2021)

An Act that reforms and sets out new positions restrictions for government members.
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-- Written by Islonia, Brototh --
-- Sponsored by Nova anglicum, Toerana V --
______________________________________________________________

PREAMBLE

Noting, that many legislators have been forced to resign to give up their positions in Congress to become Ministers,
Believing, that this system is outdated and does not work anymore,
Understanding, that as time goes on, this will only hurt Thaecia by taking away competent legislators,

Congress hereby agrees,

Section I - The following positions of government shall be defined as Restricted Positions:

  • a. The Presidency

  • b. The Prime Ministership

  • c. Justice

  • d. Electoral Commissioner

Section II - Government members in Restricted Positions cannot hold any other position in government, this includes:

  • a. The Presidency

  • b. The Prime Ministership

  • c. Justice

  • d. Electoral Commissioner

  • e. Any Ministerial Position

  • f. Senator or Member of Parliament

Section I - Ministers must not hold any other Ministerial Position. They shall, however, be permitted to hold lesser ministerial roles in other ministries.

Section II - Within Congress, Senators and Members of Parliament may only be allowed to hold their positions and extensions to them, this means roles such as Chamber Leadership. They may not be allowed to occupy more than one of these extended positions within Congress at once.

Section III - Secretary positions shall not be considered as Restricted. They shall be exempt from restrictions placed on other positions in this Act, and will face no restrictions on that position. However they shall still face other restrictions placed out in this bill on other offices.

Section I - The passage of this bill hereby constitutes the repeal of L.R.004 Positions Restriction Act.

Read dispatch

Cerdenia (IND)
Dendrobium (SOL)
Emazia (IND)
Ermica (TCU)
Pap sculgief (IND)
Sevae (IND)
Toerana V (IND)

I see no problems with this.

It's a good bill, but I still kinda wish we would just keep the original one and amend it cause it's the oldest Thaecian law still in effect (and also I wrote it so seeing it go is even sadder for me lol).

Cerdenia wrote:It's a good bill, but I still kinda wish we would just keep the original one and amend it cause it's the oldest Thaecian law still in effect (and also I wrote it so seeing it go is even sadder for me lol).

I feel like the old one was so heavily based around Senators and MPs not being able to have multiple positions a R&R is appropriate

Also ya girl gotta be racking up them authorships yk smh 😔😔✋/s

Looks good to me.

I'm also in support of this, will write up a longer post if needed but for now will just say it's a needed change

I have no problem with this bill that has been proposed

Senators, we have started voting on the Positions Restrictions Reform Act (2021).



Positions Restrictions Reform Act (2021)

An Act that reforms and sets out new positions restrictions for government members.
------

-- Written by Islonia, Brototh --
-- Sponsored by Nova anglicum, Toerana V --
______________________________________________________________

PREAMBLE

Noting, that many legislators have been forced to resign to give up their positions in Congress to become Ministers,
Believing, that this system is outdated and does not work anymore,
Understanding, that as time goes on, this will only hurt Thaecia by taking away competent legislators,

Congress hereby agrees,

Section I - The following positions of government shall be defined as Restricted Positions:

  • a. The Presidency

  • b. The Prime Ministership

  • c. Justice

  • d. Electoral Commissioner

Section II - Government members in Restricted Positions cannot hold any other position in government, this includes:

  • a. The Presidency

  • b. The Prime Ministership

  • c. Justice

  • d. Electoral Commissioner

  • e. Any Ministerial Position

  • f. Senator or Member of Parliament

Section I - Ministers must not hold any other Ministerial Position. They shall, however, be permitted to hold lesser ministerial roles in other ministries.

Section II - Within Congress, Senators and Members of Parliament may only be allowed to hold their positions and extensions to them, this means roles such as Chamber Leadership. They may not be allowed to occupy more than one of these extended positions within Congress at once.

Section III - Secretary positions shall not be considered as Restricted. They shall be exempt from restrictions placed on other positions in this Act, and will face no restrictions on that position. However they shall still face other restrictions placed out in this bill on other offices.

Section I - The passage of this bill hereby constitutes the repeal of L.R.004 Positions Restriction Act.

Read dispatch

My vote is Abstain.

Ashlawn (IND)
Cerdenia (CERD)
Dendrobium (SOL)
Emazia (IND)
Ermica (TCU)
Pap sculgief (IND)
Sevae (IND)
Toerana V (IND)

Abstain

The Positions Restrictions Reform Act has passed and is hereby passed onto the House of Commons Marvinville.
Votes:
Aye - Cerdenia, Emazia, Ermica, Pap sculgief, Sevae
Nay - none
Abstain - Ashlawn, Dendrobium, Toerana V

Senators, we have now begun the Confirmation Hearing for Rhyssuan peoples for the position of Electoral Commissioner, as nominated by the President.

Ashlawn (IND)
Cerdenia (CERD)
Dendrobium (SOL)
Emazia (IND)
Ermica (TCU)
Pap sculgief (IND)
Sevae (IND)
Toerana V (IND)

Marvinville, Sevae, and Rhyssuan peoples

Support, nothing else to say!

Rhyssuan peoples

Hello everyone! I'm here and ready to answer your questions (if I miss one, don't hesitate to ping me on discord)

I don't think I wanna question u m8, do u have any ideas of question you would ask yourself?

Cerdenia wrote:Do you have the experience necessary for Electoral Commissioner?

Great question: I have plenty of experience running elections, having served as Electoral Commissioner from March to June 2020 (approximately, this entire year's been a time vortex so I might be a month off). With the departure of our previous EC, we need someone immediately ready to take the reins without a lot of time to learn; I believe I can do that and I hope Congress agrees with me.

Rhyssua is lucky that I was here to ask the questions that he totally didn't make up!!!!!

Has my support!!!!!

Emazia and Rhyssuan peoples

You've got my support.

Rhyssuan peoples

You have my support regardless, but for the sake of transparency, what do you want to do as EC?

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