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Political commissar v ming

DPRK websites

I have been seeing a lot of articles recently about DPRK websites, and I feel there are a few myths I need to dispel.


"The full scope of North Korea's private internet has been revealed after the country accidentally gave people outside of the country brief access to it."

No, the DPRK didn't "accidentally" give people outside the country "brief" access to it. These websites have been accessible virtually anywhere in the world since their creation, save for South Korea where they are blocked. I have visited the Korean Central News Agency, Rodong Sinmun, and Voice of Korea's websites on a daily basis for several years now. Also, by "private internet" I assume you are referring to the DPRK's Kwangmyong network. This isn't it.

"The government-controlled internet is a lot smaller than was initially believed, containing just 28 websites in total, including an insurance company, sports website and site containing culinary information and recipes, according to information posted to GitHub. "

While there may be only 28 websites with the .kp domain, these are not the only websites linked to the DPRK. The websites of Chongryon and the Choson Sinbo are hosted in Japan. The website of the Korean Friendship Association is hosted in Spain. The websites of Pyeonghwa Motors and the Pyongyang University of Science and Technology is hosted in Japan. And there are other websites hosted in China, Germany, the United States, and elsewhere.

"Previous reports had suggested the North Korean internet was significantly larger, with as many as 5,500 websites. But when access to the country's web was briefly available this week, the GitHub users found just 28 North Korean domains."

Again, this is not the Kwangmyong network. Kwangmyong uses its own DNS service and domain names and is only accessible in the DPRK. I don't know how many websites are on Kwangmyong, but 5,500 is the highest estimate and 1,000 is the lowest estimate.

"That the country had an internet at all first became common knowledge in 2014 when it suffered an outage after it was attacked by external hackers. "

I can't vouch for when it became "common knowledge". I'm not even sure if it's "common knowledge" even now. I imagine most would be surprised if you told them the DPRK has computers to begin with. Anyhow, I've frequenting many of these websites since 2010, and as far as I can tell, knowledge of them hasn't gotten any more common.

"Since then, information about the secret network has gradually leaked out. Earlier this year, a Scottish teenager hacked North Korea's imitation of Facebook, called "Best Korea's Social Network". "

The DPRK created no such social network, and if the name alone isn't enough to prove otherwise, you are not qualified to write about the DPRK.

- Kim yong il

Political commissar v ming

Thinking like a Communist

Id like to start this education program on a slightly different note than may be expected. Rather than talking about the actual specific theories of Marx I am going to speak on thinking like a communist. Id hazard to say that for most people stepping into socialism doesn’t begin with theory, it begins with a feeling. A feeling that something isn’t right in the world, the inequalities start to mount up and can no longer be ignored, the disparities in power and punishment start to glare. So you say to yourself, “Gee, things sure are unfair, I wonder why that is?”
This is the first step on the road for most to Communism.

But what does it mean to think like a Marxist? What is it like to see the world through Marxist lenses? Put into four words our thought process can be condensed down to “dialectically, revolutionary, scientifically, practicality”.

- To start with, we see the world dialectically. This means we view life and history as a series of contradictory and opposing forces. Rich vs poor, landed vs unlanded, urban vs rural, the list goes on. These forces are opposing, and through their clashing of interest’s history is advanced. We view all of history through this lens, with almost no room for “great men” to enact their will on history. Instead, “great men” are just the mouthpieces of dialectical forces moving in the background.

A communist knows that there are eternal forces fighting against the advent of worker power. A liberal or conservative might say “Oh unions are weak now, shame that nobody cares anymore!” chalking the bulk of the responsibility to individual feelings. A communist on the other hand knows that the reason unions are weak is decades of attack from the capitalist class to degrade their effectiveness. Nothing happens without reason, people didn’t stop caring about unions on their own, they were lead there by forces stronger and richer than unionized labor.

Here’s a simple way to begin thinking dialectically. Next time you hear something on the news like “People continue to protest the recent shooting in Charlotte”, think about the forces that caused this. On one side you have a racist and oppressive police force that stands in defense of bourgeoisie capital, and on the other side you have a collection of oppressed minorities and allies. Rather than looking at it as “a bunch of angry people protesting”, look at them as a part of the larger dialectical force of “the unsatisfied oppressed masses”. If violence or looting happens, it’s not an expression of a few rogue individuals doing what they want, it’s the expression of dispossessed class anger. En-masse people are more expressions of class forces than their individual desires.

- Next, our mindset should always strive to be revolutionary. What this means is that we do not get caught under the wheels of trying to reform a broken system. To us, it is impossible to reorient the class structure without destroying it. In the same way you can’t slowly explode a bomb, you can not slowly reform and rearrange classes.

Having a revolutionary mindset simply means that we will not attempt to reform the system or accept it the way it is. Only a radical destruction of the existing class structures (banks, government institutions, businesses, ect) and rebuilding under the control of the working class is tolerable.

This does come with a certain amount of acceptance on the need for eventual armed resistance. Communists know that the capitalist system will never give up without a fight, and will certainly never allow us to take over and destroy them without a fight. Ideas of peaceful resolution need to be discarded, no class is going to willingly allow itself to be destroyed, especially not the richest, greediest, and smallest class of capitalists.

- Thirdly, our approach to the world is scientifically. The basis of this is our belief in materialism. Materialism means that we believe everything that exists has an explainable and understandable reason. In this life, things like ghosts, a supreme being, superstitions, curses, voodoo, and other non-real things have no impact on reality. The world is a rational and understandable place, nothing in it can not be explained with science. The mind does not control or create objective reality. We believe strongly in learning from the examples of history, and by analyzing the forces at play much of social development can be made into a science. But unlike anthropology we primarily concern ourselves with the economic interactions between classes as the driving force for change.

- And lastly, our actions should always strive for practicality. We struggle to move the masses from where they are, not from where we want them to be. Our actions must always be guided by practicality, not by idealism. Here is an easy idealism to get lost in: “socialism is inevitable”. There is nothing to prove this is true, history does not bear this out, and yet I always hear it from people. Society is not on some intrinsic path forwards to being more humane and equal, it must be brought there with hard work. We do not believe that thoughts and feelings on matters is good enough, or that our personal feelings justify incorrect courses of action.

This is one of the greatest hurdles when it comes to socialists working together. Sometimes the compromises that have to be made for the practical situation upset the more puritanical book learned members of the movement. This is especially true in my experience of followers of Trotsky, who complain endlessly about the failures of various socialist movements yet have exactly 0 of their own successful revolutions to show. Things like Lenin's New Economic Policy, or Stalin's Socialism in One Country may not be the most puritan "correct" communist decisions, but they WERE the correct decisions for the materialist conditions they were made in.

We do not believe that any reliable change ever arises from “good intentions”. Reliable change only comes from having a practical stand against things that are directly causing oppression. For example, liberals love to talk about “good cops”. And while the good cop narrative might appeal to people who want to feel good, or think that the individual matters as much as the system, it is practically speaking – false. Sure there are good individuals, people who tuck their kid in at night, kiss their SO before going off to work, and then plant their boot firmly on the necks of the oppressed. A communist does not care about how nice of a person the police man is, from a practical standpoint that officer is supporting oppression and an oppressive system, this is the only thing that matters about that person if you are fighting against oppression.

So to me it hardly matters who that cop is, I must oppose him on the basis of practicality if nothing else. He stands against equality and my interests, thus he must be confronted and known to be the enemy.

Communists do not believe that things like “moral character”, “strength of will”, or “optimism” are acceptable advancement methodologies. Simply believing is not enough to enact change!

We do not believe in a liberal concept of “human rights”. The idea that the right to education, healthcare, liberty, justice, and all that jazz just because you are a human is great in theory. However, as communists we believe that these things will never be secured if we rely on human’s good will and intentions, especially parliamentary politics.

Under capitalism the average person is degraded to the point they do not think they can effect change, their vacillitations in opinion at the ebb and flow of corporate media and money means that anything deemed a “right” today can be taken away tomorrow. The only method of guaranteeing effective human rights that can not be denied is to build a just system around them that guarantees them simply through its normal operating procedure. Not only that, but we must set aside a liberal concept of “equality” to remove those who are perpetuating inequality within our system.

A liberal might say “A capitalist has as much freedom to earn money as you!”, while a communist knows that nobody should have the power to oppress and exploit another, and that the liberals concept of “freedom” is just freedom for the slave owner.

A communist economic system is this guarantee. It’s not enough to say that all people should have a voice, you have to actually give them one by smashing the economic organs controlling media and voting. It’s not enough to say that healthcare is a right and provide a “cheap” way to get it, it must be guaranteed in the constitution and social contract. It’s not enough to say that you deserve a justice system that is fair, you have to destroy the corrupt for-profit system entirely.

You can not legislate human rights, you can only guarantee them by making their guarantee a vital part of the social contract. Human rights flow from the system, not from individuals or “allowing” people to have them.

- Comradeland

Che triumphant

Post by Stalin Lands suppressed by Marxist Scholar Vanguard.

Hey people from Marxist Scholars Circle, we have diplomatic relationships, so, I request your delegate's support to this resolution condemning nazifascim!
page=UN_view_proposal/id=stalin_lands_1482711361

Political commissar v ming wrote:Thinking like a Communist

Id like to start this education program on a slightly different note than may be expected. Rather than talking about the actual specific theories of Marx I am going to speak on thinking like a communist. Id hazard to say that for most people stepping into socialism doesn’t begin with theory, it begins with a feeling. A feeling that something isn’t right in the world, the inequalities start to mount up and can no longer be ignored, the disparities in power and punishment start to glare. So you say to yourself, “Gee, things sure are unfair, I wonder why that is?”
This is the first step on the road for most to Communism.

But what does it mean to think like a Marxist? What is it like to see the world through Marxist lenses? Put into four words our thought process can be condensed down to “dialectically, revolutionary, scientifically, practicality”.

- To start with, we see the world dialectically. This means we view life and history as a series of contradictory and opposing forces. Rich vs poor, landed vs unlanded, urban vs rural, the list goes on. These forces are opposing, and through their clashing of interest’s history is advanced. We view all of history through this lens, with almost no room for “great men” to enact their will on history. Instead, “great men” are just the mouthpieces of dialectical forces moving in the background.

A communist knows that there are eternal forces fighting against the advent of worker power. A liberal or conservative might say “Oh unions are weak now, shame that nobody cares anymore!” chalking the bulk of the responsibility to individual feelings. A communist on the other hand knows that the reason unions are weak is decades of attack from the capitalist class to degrade their effectiveness. Nothing happens without reason, people didn’t stop caring about unions on their own, they were lead there by forces stronger and richer than unionized labor.

Here’s a simple way to begin thinking dialectically. Next time you hear something on the news like “People continue to protest the recent shooting in Charlotte”, think about the forces that caused this. On one side you have a racist and oppressive police force that stands in defense of bourgeoisie capital, and on the other side you have a collection of oppressed minorities and allies. Rather than looking at it as “a bunch of angry people protesting”, look at them as a part of the larger dialectical force of “the unsatisfied oppressed masses”. If violence or looting happens, it’s not an expression of a few rogue individuals doing what they want, it’s the expression of dispossessed class anger. En-masse people are more expressions of class forces than their individual desires.

- Next, our mindset should always strive to be revolutionary. What this means is that we do not get caught under the wheels of trying to reform a broken system. To us, it is impossible to reorient the class structure without destroying it. In the same way you can’t slowly explode a bomb, you can not slowly reform and rearrange classes.

Having a revolutionary mindset simply means that we will not attempt to reform the system or accept it the way it is. Only a radical destruction of the existing class structures (banks, government institutions, businesses, ect) and rebuilding under the control of the working class is tolerable.

This does come with a certain amount of acceptance on the need for eventual armed resistance. Communists know that the capitalist system will never give up without a fight, and will certainly never allow us to take over and destroy them without a fight. Ideas of peaceful resolution need to be discarded, no class is going to willingly allow itself to be destroyed, especially not the richest, greediest, and smallest class of capitalists.

- Thirdly, our approach to the world is scientifically. The basis of this is our belief in materialism. Materialism means that we believe everything that exists has an explainable and understandable reason. In this life, things like ghosts, a supreme being, superstitions, curses, voodoo, and other non-real things have no impact on reality. The world is a rational and understandable place, nothing in it can not be explained with science. The mind does not control or create objective reality. We believe strongly in learning from the examples of history, and by analyzing the forces at play much of social development can be made into a science. But unlike anthropology we primarily concern ourselves with the economic interactions between classes as the driving force for change.

- And lastly, our actions should always strive for practicality. We struggle to move the masses from where they are, not from where we want them to be. Our actions must always be guided by practicality, not by idealism. Here is an easy idealism to get lost in: “socialism is inevitable”. There is nothing to prove this is true, history does not bear this out, and yet I always hear it from people. Society is not on some intrinsic path forwards to being more humane and equal, it must be brought there with hard work. We do not believe that thoughts and feelings on matters is good enough, or that our personal feelings justify incorrect courses of action.

This is one of the greatest hurdles when it comes to socialists working together. Sometimes the compromises that have to be made for the practical situation upset the more puritanical book learned members of the movement. This is especially true in my experience of followers of Trotsky, who complain endlessly about the failures of various socialist movements yet have exactly 0 of their own successful revolutions to show. Things like Lenin's New Economic Policy, or Stalin's Socialism in One Country may not be the most puritan "correct" communist decisions, but they WERE the correct decisions for the materialist conditions they were made in.

We do not believe that any reliable change ever arises from “good intentions”. Reliable change only comes from having a practical stand against things that are directly causing oppression. For example, liberals love to talk about “good cops”. And while the good cop narrative might appeal to people who want to feel good, or think that the individual matters as much as the system, it is practically speaking – false. Sure there are good individuals, people who tuck their kid in at night, kiss their SO before going off to work, and then plant their boot firmly on the necks of the oppressed. A communist does not care about how nice of a person the police man is, from a practical standpoint that officer is supporting oppression and an oppressive system, this is the only thing that matters about that person if you are fighting against oppression.

So to me it hardly matters who that cop is, I must oppose him on the basis of practicality if nothing else. He stands against equality and my interests, thus he must be confronted and known to be the enemy.

Communists do not believe that things like “moral character”, “strength of will”, or “optimism” are acceptable advancement methodologies. Simply believing is not enough to enact change!

We do not believe in a liberal concept of “human rights”. The idea that the right to education, healthcare, liberty, justice, and all that jazz just because you are a human is great in theory. However, as communists we believe that these things will never be secured if we rely on human’s good will and intentions, especially parliamentary politics.

Under capitalism the average person is degraded to the point they do not think they can effect change, their vacillitations in opinion at the ebb and flow of corporate media and money means that anything deemed a “right” today can be taken away tomorrow. The only method of guaranteeing effective human rights that can not be denied is to build a just system around them that guarantees them simply through its normal operating procedure. Not only that, but we must set aside a liberal concept of “equality” to remove those who are perpetuating inequality within our system.

A liberal might say “A capitalist has as much freedom to earn money as you!”, while a communist knows that nobody should have the power to oppress and exploit another, and that the liberals concept of “freedom” is just freedom for the slave owner.

A communist economic system is this guarantee. It’s not enough to say that all people should have a voice, you have to actually give them one by smashing the economic organs controlling media and voting. It’s not enough to say that healthcare is a right and provide a “cheap” way to get it, it must be guaranteed in the constitution and social contract. It’s not enough to say that you deserve a justice system that is fair, you have to destroy the corrupt for-profit system entirely.

You can not legislate human rights, you can only guarantee them by making their guarantee a vital part of the social contract. Human rights flow from the system, not from individuals or “allowing” people to have them.

- Comradeland

Wow.
Now I understand why your called marx scholars.
Very profound.

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Greetings and welcome to MSC 2019!

While this project is still in its infancy, comrades from North Korea would like to invite fellow comrades of the NSLeft to join us in an effort to grow and develop this great region along its intended lines. To expand the education of the left and create positive conditions for learning and discussion.

It is the perspective of North Korea that this region is absolutely priceless in a time of ecological devastation, class war and the rise of fascism the world over.

So join us! We have nothing to lose but our chains comrades, and there's a world to win!

Introductions

As you arrive, please state your main nation, your region and a little bit about yourself if you like.

My name is VMing, also known as Marxist-feminists I am the founder of NK and currently hold the founder account of the MSC. I am a Marxist-Leninist and member of the Communist Party of Canada in real life. I look forward to meeting new comrades here and further developing my outlook as a Marxist.

Revolutionary theory

Revolutionary theory

Introduction

Howdy all, I am Comradeland. Marxist-Leninist with some Maoist leaning tendencies. I am one of the oldest members of North Korea, looking forward to putting my politics to the anvil.

Misleyan group 2

Introduction

Howdy folks, I am Caelapes from The Internationale. I am a Marxist-Leninist and a member of the Party for Socialism and Liberation (USA) in real life. Happy to learn alongside comrades and share what insights I can!

Revolutionary theory, Marxist Scholar Vanguard, and Che in the msc

Revolutionary theory

Thought for discussion:

How should topics work? Id like to propose a "three-week topic" where every 3 weeks we rotate to a different discussion. Or perhaps two weeks.

I think we would benefit from focused, targeted discussion, rather than a broad free-for-all

Marxist Scholar Vanguard and Che in the msc

Revolutionary theory wrote:Thought for discussion:

How should topics work? Id like to propose a "three-week topic" where every 3 weeks we rotate to a different discussion. Or perhaps two weeks.

I think we would benefit from focused, targeted discussion, rather than a broad free-for-all

Let's wait until we get a few more comrades here before we make any decisions, I'd really like to see an "educational committee" (teachers in the poll) set up to set the plans with a representative from each participating region. This should be as inclusive as possible. I'll send out invitations to each region personally and hopefully we can really get the ball rolling in a week's time.

Does this work for everyone here?

Books and bombs

Hello, I am Kassimo, of the anarchist persuasion. I would like to gain a proper understanding of Marxism, and share my reflections in the process. I am sure this will be an inspiring encounter for all of us. :)

Marxist Scholar Vanguard and Che in the msc

A marxist scholar freien

Hello, this is Freien, as you could have guessed. The Internationale and North Korea are my main regions, having engaged in the former more during these couple of years I have been in NS. I don't really identify as anything, but "a Marxist" will be fine. I answered with "learning only", but I would consider "teaching" too, depending on what this entails and whether I think that I will be able to do it sufficiently. Good luck with restarting that project, I hope that with the contribution of all of us it will succeed on its purpose.

Marxist Scholar Vanguard and Che in the msc

Greeting C m p a n e r t 8 5 e d j r. Please introduce yourself.

Hello, I’m Ubertas. I’ve been a TCB citizen for over a year now. I’m relatively new to the Marxist scene, and I’m extremely excited to learn and converse with you all. I feel navigating the pertinent texts of Marxism and speaking with other leftists will help me to learn faster as opposed to going about it on my own. :)

THE DEFENDER ALLIANCE and Che in the msc

Hello, I'm Toby. I'm a TLA citizen but I'm not really understanding Marxism so can someone fill me in? I am a social democrat with some bad feelings toward Stalinism, and I would really appreciate someone filling me in on the ways of the Marxist.

Thanks

THE DEFENDER ALLIANCE and Che in the msc

Hello, I'm Uan aa Boa, currently elected head of government in Forest. I hope joining from outside NSLeft is OK. I'm here in a purely personal capacity as Forest is an apolitical region.

I wouldn't link myself to any particular -ism, but I am highly critical of our current capitalist system. I'm here in the hope of acquiring a more solid understanding of Marxist ideas.

THE DEFENDER ALLIANCE and Che in the msc

All-union peoples republics

Hi, this is North American Communists of North Korea and the NSLeft. I'd describe my tendency as Marxist-leninist with some Maoist leanings. I hope to sharpen my theoretical grasp of marxism and theory generally by both engaging other comrades writings as well as contributing some interpretations of my own. Look forward to hearing the different perspectives offered by everyone who's come here!

THE DEFENDER ALLIANCE and Che in the msc

Che in the msc

Tobosarsk wrote:Hello, I'm Toby. I'm a TLA citizen but I'm not really understanding Marxism so can someone fill me in? I am a social democrat with some bad feelings toward Stalinism, and I would really appreciate someone filling me in on the ways of the Marxist.

Thanks

Any questions in particular?

Che in the msc wrote:Any questions in particular?

1. Why isn't there an Engelism?
2. What's the difference between Marxism and Leninism?
3. How do you make borscht?

Hello, I am zenganopoli/partisan/cooper/IRA Truck Driver/I have lost count of my names and I'll mostly lurk and ask questions.

My main focus in politics has always derived from history, rather than philosophy or strict theory

Marxist Scholar Vanguard, Ubertas, and Che in the msc

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