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Just to be clear the MPs can still propose bills of their own. Afterall in my manifesto I promise to pass six other bills after this one. It is just that the bills that politically independent citizens write must be putted into debate in the House if they gather at least 10 signatures. That is all. The bills that result from political activism will not exclude the bills proposed by the MPs.

Here is my and TNM's election program for the Senate elections.
1.Unicameral legislature
2.Removal of the Presidency
3.Justices and Ministers need the Parliament's approval and trust at any time
4.No or limited Theacian army
5.International co-operation
6.Transparency and free speech
7.No off-site forums

Our manifesto was expanded a little, you can read it here:
page=dispatch/id=1190728

Do you have any questions about our ideas? Ask them here, on Discord or by telegram.
Are you interested in being a member of TNM? Don't feel affraid to telegram Pekares.

Pekares wrote:Here is my and TNM's election program for the Senate elections.
1.Unicameral legislature
2.Removal of the Presidency
3.Justices and Ministers need the Parliament's approval and trust at any time
4.No or limited Theacian army
5.International co-operation
6.Transparency and free speech
7.No off-site forums

Our manifesto was expanded a little, you can read it here:
page=dispatch/id=1190728

Do you have any questions about our ideas? Ask them here, on Discord or by telegram.
Are you interested in being a member of TNM? Don't feel affraid to telegram Pekares.

How is the removal of the Presidency somehow usefull to Thaecia?

The marconian state, Cerdenia, Andusre, and Xernon

Developing World wrote:How is the removal of the Presidency somehow usefull to Thaecia?

3 and 7 are kinda pointless

Developing World wrote:How is the removal of the Presidency somehow usefull to Thaecia?

That is my question as well.

The President serves as the region's WA Delegate. The World Assembly is a completely different world/creature, and there has to be an officer overseeing Thaecia's WA votes, making voting recommendations, and ensuring that Thaecia is attractive to WA nations.

Korsinia, The marconian state, Cerdenia, Developing World, and 1 otherAndusre

Developing World wrote:How is the removal of the Presidency somehow usefull to Thaecia?

Xernon wrote:That is my question as well.

The President serves as the region's WA Delegate. The World Assembly is a completely different world/creature, and there has to be an officer overseeing Thaecia's WA votes, making voting recommendations, and ensuring that Thaecia is attractive to WA nations.

I think the President and Prime Minister are quite similar posts. The main difference being executive and WA. Basically the only thing the PM doesn't have is the WA Delegacy. This makes the President somewhat unnecessary. Please tell me differently if I'm wrong.
I think the PM could get the WA Delegacy as well, or, the Delegacy is open for anyone to get through many endorsements.

Xernon wrote:That is my question as well.

The President serves as the region's WA Delegate. The World Assembly is a completely different world/creature, and there has to be an officer overseeing Thaecia's WA votes, making voting recommendations, and ensuring that Thaecia is attractive to WA nations.

Agreed and also the President is the figurehead of the region which helps the whole community come togheter. It would be very dangerous to remove that

Korsinia, The marconian state, and Xernon

Pekares wrote:I think the President and Prime Minister are quite similar posts. The main difference being executive and WA. Basically the only thing the PM doesn't have is the WA Delegacy. This makes the President somewhat unnecessary. Please tell me differently if I'm wrong.
I think the PM could get the WA Delegacy as well, or, the Delegacy is open for anyone to get through many endorsements.

I understand where you're coming from; however, the Prime Minister deals with leading the government. They oversee the cabinet and determine the region's foreign policy, integration policy, and cultural policy. That's more than enough responsibility to put on someone's plate. To add to it the tasks of researching WA resolutions, writing voting recommendations, and working to maintain a high endorsement count is not practical to ask from one individual who's already performing a comprehensive role. As for opening it up to anyone, that is not a good idea. WA Delegate is a position that requires a plan of action and a good work ethic, and there's no telling that a random person would deliver that. Elections for the position, on the other hand, allow us to see what the candidates visions are for the Delegacy, and not only that, they allow us to hold the candidates accountable in carrying out their visions.

Nation M, Saint ryvern, Korsinia, The marconian state, and 3 othersCerdenia, Andusre, and Sar graniabley islands

Titanne wrote:https://sites.google.com/view/thaecianpartiesovertime/página-inicial?authuser=2

Neither do I. People were elected for a reason, not so that they could just sit and watch while the citizens demand things.

If they’re elected it’s best for them not to forget or ignore the voices of those who placed them in power.

Lithuanian impire

Lemonadia wrote:My Fellow Thaecians,
I am concerned

I was saving this argument for the High Court, especially after having so many solo fights over the constitutional norms over the last few days, but I guess it's better to share this now. The Constitution itself doesn't protect or provide any rights to the parties, neither it mentions parties directly, awarding them authority over citizens or government officials. According to it, citizens are creators of a party, making parties tools for citizens to act, enact their agendas, etc. As so practise for parties to have sovereignty over free spots in the government, in my opinion, should be seen as flawed and contradictory to the order constructed in the Constitution. While overall existence of the deputies is currently protected by the law, power (though not responsibility, as the spot isn't required legally) to appoint or not to appoint them should lay with the elected officials themselves, who should be able to decide if another citizen can ensure continuity over the ideas/agendas that they were elected to enact.

While not part of the current law, I would 100% support you motion that every elected spot should been confirmed through elections rather then existence of deputies, thought that requires changing the Constitution as currently transition to a deputy is an option that's granted by it.

Albianis - A Senator for the People of Thaecia

Platform Summary:

  • Establishing a Petition System

  • New cabinet Powers to prevent an Inactive Legislator

  • Community Development

  • Protecting the Liberty of the Thaecian People

  • Inter-Regional Diplomacy and Collaboration, leading to inter-regional games

Good day to you all, as you can most likely tell, I am Albianis.
Thaecia is a region we have all come to know and love, it is a region that has a chance to prosper, to develop a strong culture and produce varied political discourse. Those of you that have been following the RP on the Discord server will know me as the guy that has been encouraging everyone to get involved in his nation's civil war, and I seek to continue to encourage such events to develop a strong community around this region.
This Snap Election was called due to a lack of activity in the Senate; I can promise you no such Snap Election will be called again as long as I'm there.

I stand with the Thaecian Progressive Party because progress and development should be the first priority of this region while maintaining liberty and democracy and creating diplomatic ties with other regions. Make no mistake though, I may stand with the TPU but I stand for the people.

The Platform:

Establishing a System for Petitions
Democracy is a system that represents the citizens of the nation through the ballot box to elect representatives, we hence need to make our representatives representative of the Thaecia's glorious citizens. If you would allow me a seat in the Senate I will work with colleagues to put a petition system in place, to allow the citizens of Thaecia to voice their concern and ideas between the election periods. I will work with my colleagues to find a way to work this into the politics of our nation, my proposition is that any petition that gets more than X votes must be debated in the House of Commons.

Amendment to Article IX of the Constitution
The legality of this Snap Election being called was complicated as there were so few active members of the Senate, there was a debate about how we could go about calling the snap election on this discord server.
It is for this reason that I propose a new Section to Article IX:
If either the House of Commons or the Senate becomes inactive it is up to the Cabinet to decide whether it is appropriate for a snap election to be called (where 'inactive' is defined as 50% of the House or Senate not voting on legislation twice in a row)
I seek to work with colleagues to pass this, or a similar amendment, through the Legislator.

Developing the Community
I want to work with the Culture Minister and my colleagues to help develop the community through the use of more polls to help us steer our culture and community in the direction its citizens want it to go.
I also wish to allow more people to get involved in the politics of the region, the petition system will help this but expanding the number of seats in both the House and the Senate is a must as our region grows in number, I propose that the number of seats expands in proportion with the size of the electorate that needs to be represented, this will allow for the people to be better represented as the community grows.

Liberty
I will protect the people from any encroaches on their liberty unless deemed necessary by the public themselves. I support Freedom of Speech within this region as it contributes to the political discourse, I believe that our current laws on entry to Thaecia are adequate in keeping out radical members of the NS community, and any restriction on the Freedom of Speech of the public is unnecessary, of course, any trolling will be dealt with as such.

Diplomacy
I wish to see Thaecia further open up to the world, I wish to see us open more embassies across all regions that align with our values, in order to create stronger ties and produce inter-regional conversation and inter-regional games. I would love to see an inter-regional RP also set up once these diplomatic ties are adequate to do so with each region within its own continent.

Albianis being interviewed
Read factbook

Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions pertaining to my personal views or to what I have laid out in my platform.

Thank you for your time.

Nation M, Saint ryvern, Korsinia, The marconian state, and 3 othersAndusre, Xernon, and Sar graniabley islands

Lithuanian impire

Pekares wrote:I think the President and Prime Minister are quite similar posts. The main difference being executive and WA. Basically the only thing the PM doesn't have is the WA Delegacy. This makes the President somewhat unnecessary. Please tell me differently if I'm wrong.
I think the PM could get the WA Delegacy as well, or, the Delegacy is open for anyone to get through many endorsements.

I disagree with this completely.

Nation M, Saint ryvern, The marconian state, Xernon, and 1 otherLemonadia

Xernon wrote:I understand where you're coming from; however, the Prime Minister deals with leading the government. They oversee the cabinet and determine the region's foreign policy, integration policy, and cultural policy. That's more than enough responsibility to put on someone's plate. To add to it the tasks of researching WA resolutions, writing voting recommendations, and working to maintain a high endorsement count is not practical to ask from one individual who's already performing a comprehensive role. As for opening it up to anyone, that is not a good idea. WA Delegate is a position that requires a plan of action and a good work ethic, and there's no telling that a random person would deliver that. Elections for the position, on the other hand, allow us to see what the candidates visions are for the Delegacy, and not only that, they allow us to hold the candidates accountable in carrying out their visions.

The work in the WA isn't that requiring tho. Possibly the approval of proposals, but voting on proposals could easily be done by voting according to the members of Theacia's vote, and proposals of proposals could be done with approval of the Houses. Also completely random people would probably not get the Delegacy without hard work for endorsements. A third way would be to have the same nation as Delegate constantly, as this means the endorsement count wouldn't differ after elections which is important when voting.
But there might be a difference as this region is quite large and has many WA members. You made some good points, but Iäll stick to my opinion.

Nation M and Saint ryvern

Pekares wrote:The work in the WA isn't that requiring tho. Possibly the approval of proposals, but voting on proposals could easily be done by voting according to the members of Theacia's vote, and proposals of proposals could be done with approval of the Houses. Also completely random people would probably not get the Delegacy without hard work for endorsements. A third way would be to have the same nation as Delegate constantly, as this means the endorsement count wouldn't differ after elections which is important when voting.
But there might be a difference as this region is quite large and has many WA members. You made some good points, but Iäll stick to my opinion.

Ultimately, I think we're envisioning different roles for the position, which is fine, but ultimately, the role that facilitates our regional growth better and results in a stronger, more organized political structure and system for our region is what we need to go with. You also made some good points, but I will stick to my opinion.

Nation M, Saint ryvern, Pekares, Korsinia, and 2 othersThe marconian state, and Developing World

As your beloved FAM
I'd love to hear what you have to say regarding the FAM, instead using it all as election promises.
Just by being an ambassador you can create inter-regional rp, push for even more diplomacy and help me start up other events.
I as one person am doing my best to maintain and further develop our Foreign Affairs

But what you promise your voters can almost certainly be done right now just by talking to me

Nation M, The marconian state, Andusre, and Xernon

Korsinia

The moment I posted that last post
Telegrams started to fly in

Nation M, The marconian state, and Xernon

Nvm
Just ambassadors from foreign regions

Nation M, The marconian state, Xernon, and Lemonadia

Saint ryvern wrote:If they’re elected it’s best for them not to forget or ignore the voices of those who placed them in power.

Exactly. This is what my manifesto is about.

Nation M and Saint ryvern

Albianis wrote:Albianis - A Senator for the People of Thaecia

Platform Summary:

  • Establishing a Petition System

  • New cabinet Powers to prevent an Inactive Legislator

  • Community Development

  • Protecting the Liberty of the Thaecian People

  • Inter-Regional Diplomacy and Collaboration, leading to inter-regional games

Good day to you all, as you can most likely tell, I am Albianis.
Thaecia is a region we have all come to know and love, it is a region that has a chance to prosper, to develop a strong culture and produce varied political discourse. Those of you that have been following the RP on the Discord server will know me as the guy that has been encouraging everyone to get involved in his nation's civil war, and I seek to continue to encourage such events to develop a strong community around this region.
This Snap Election was called due to a lack of activity in the Senate; I can promise you no such Snap Election will be called again as long as I'm there.

I stand with the Thaecian Progressive Party because progress and development should be the first priority of this region while maintaining liberty and democracy and creating diplomatic ties with other regions. Make no mistake though, I may stand with the TPU but I stand for the people.

The Platform:

Establishing a System for Petitions
Democracy is a system that represents the citizens of the nation through the ballot box to elect representatives, we hence need to make our representatives representative of the Thaecia's glorious citizens. If you would allow me a seat in the Senate I will work with colleagues to put a petition system in place, to allow the citizens of Thaecia to voice their concern and ideas between the election periods. I will work with my colleagues to find a way to work this into the politics of our nation, my proposition is that any petition that gets more than X votes must be debated in the House of Commons.

Amendment to Article IX of the Constitution
The legality of this Snap Election being called was complicated as there were so few active members of the Senate, there was a debate about how we could go about calling the snap election on this discord server.
It is for this reason that I propose a new Section to Article IX:
If either the House of Commons or the Senate becomes inactive it is up to the Cabinet to decide whether it is appropriate for a snap election to be called (where 'inactive' is defined as 50% of the House or Senate not voting on legislation twice in a row)
I seek to work with colleagues to pass this, or a similar amendment, through the Legislator.

Developing the Community
I want to work with the Culture Minister and my colleagues to help develop the community through the use of more polls to help us steer our culture and community in the direction its citizens want it to go.
I also wish to allow more people to get involved in the politics of the region, the petition system will help this but expanding the number of seats in both the House and the Senate is a must as our region grows in number, I propose that the number of seats expands in proportion with the size of the electorate that needs to be represented, this will allow for the people to be better represented as the community grows.

Liberty
I will protect the people from any encroaches on their liberty unless deemed necessary by the public themselves. I support Freedom of Speech within this region as it contributes to the political discourse, I believe that our current laws on entry to Thaecia are adequate in keeping out radical members of the NS community, and any restriction on the Freedom of Speech of the public is unnecessary, of course, any trolling will be dealt with as such.

Diplomacy
I wish to see Thaecia further open up to the world, I wish to see us open more embassies across all regions that align with our values, in order to create stronger ties and produce inter-regional conversation and inter-regional games. I would love to see an inter-regional RP also set up once these diplomatic ties are adequate to do so with each region within its own continent.

Albianis being interviewed
Read factbook

Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions pertaining to my personal views or to what I have laid out in my platform.

Thank you for your time.

So good to see that my petition system proposal is spreading. I will present in the next couple of days the bill that I will get passed in my first three weeks in the Senate to establish a common sense petition system.

Nation M, Saint ryvern, and Xernon

Unovian diplomatic survey bot

Greetings!
As somebody who has written a constitution or two in my time, and being that I have been active in this, my current non home Region, I believe I should have a say at the Convention, to represent the embassies and to allow for a final screener of grammatical, text errors, and other such issues before bringing the document to the people for consideration.
If I am out of line, I apologize. My expertise is potentially invaluable.
Thank you for your time.

Nation M, Korsinia, and Developing World

Just making a statement about all of this platforms full of proposals. It's great seeing people get involved and being active, I am sure this time we will get a good senate, I have also been seing a lot of platforms with a lot of proposals, I personally am not campaigning on that many ideas for proposals because of one thing: time. The Senate is late, we have two House Bills to vote before we proceed to our own stuff, and even when we finish the current house bills we will have even more coming. It's for that reason that I don't personally campaign on tons of ideas, and instead focus on my well defined ones which I have already started drafting (Such as this one), as well as my experience. Personally in elections I hate seeing candidates promising stuff that they won't be able to actually do, again, let's remember that the Senate is late, and that the new Senators will serve less then 4 months due to this snap election which I believe does not alter the election cycle. Despite this that doesen't mean I have less ideas then the other candidates, one of my main plans if I get elected is to draft a bipartisan bill to determine Senate and House procedures, we have seen an efficent House because Speaker Rayekka has experience with that kind of stuff, however we must remember that, if the next Senate Chairman is from the TPU (Which is likely), he/she probably won't be someone with much experience, that's why I believe drafting a bill to determine our Senate and House procedures will be a great thing to help us now and possibly in the future.

Korsinia, Zoopolis, and Sar graniabley islands

Broustan-bringing sense to the Senate

How's it going Thaecians? Today I bring you my reelection campaign. My main goal this time out is to prevent a repeat of the last Senate. In order to do this please read up on my Rusty Platform:

As you all know, I've spent my (short) time as Chairman of the Senate trying to bring it to life. In doing so, I've found that this task is quite similar to unscrewing a screw that has been cotated in rust (hence the platform name). To explain the analogy, when a screw is super rusty and you want to get rid of it, it takes a lot of force to unstick it from the thread. But after that first push, it becomes considerably easier. Here are my proposals that will (hopefully) act as that first push:

Act I: Snap election
Oviously we're having a snap election (wow Broustan, I couldn't tell). This was phase one of my plan to revitalize the Senate. There were only two Senators (Myself and Titanne) who were actually active I'm not saying that to make ourselves look better, but to hold the Senate accountable to you guys, Theacia. That's the same reason we(the ruling coalition) decided to hold a snap, so you all could decide on what you want to keep, and tell us what doesn't work. Now I need to make the rest of my plan clear, so you can decide which category I fall into.

Plank I: Combating Inactivate Officials
As I just mentioned, of the biggest problems with the Senate today is inactive Senators. But after the snap, what keeps the new Senate from falling into the same trap? What I propose is a weekly check in, where every Senator telegrams the Chairman, Shadow Chairman, PM, and President. Why so many people? That's to combat a ruling government removing Senators they don't like by fabricating claims of inactivity. If a Senator fails to check in 2 weeks in a row, (if they haven't otherwise made clear that they have RL responseabilities), they will lose their seat, and a snap election will be held to replace them.

Plank II: Keeping the Senate Active
This isn't really a bill, rater I'm giving you all a look into how I plan to run the Senate. First each Senator will read through the bill in question and write up a Factbook explaining their position, thoughts, and opinions. That will take 2 days ( one day to read and think, the other to write) on day the Senators will read up on the opinion Factbooks, and will begin to debate if need be. Day 4 is reserved for the debate, day 5 is for voting. Day 6 is for public hearing (more on that later) and Day 7 the Senate is in recess, where Senateors can feel free to relax, or propose their own bills. However, if there is something critical, days 6 and 7 will be when Senate is in a state of emergency deliberation, just incase.

Plank III: Holding Your Government Accountable
For Thaecia's sake we can't allow a situation like this to happen again, therefore, I make myself completely available to any and all questions, comments, suggestions, and concerns. If you as a citizen fell like there's something you want to see implemented, I'll absolutely give it consideration. That doesn't mean I'll always do whatever is asked, but I will give everything you say a fair shot. Another way I propose you guys holding us accountable is by holding a weekly public hearing, where the citizens can propose bills that they wrote, and where Senators can poke around and find bills they'd like to sponsor. Finally, at the end of every week there will be a poll in the Senate region, where citizens of Thaecia can rate our Senate.

I hope this can convince you all that I'm the right guy for the job, and remember, Broustan, bringing sense to the Senate

Read dispatch


But maybe you're thinking, "Fine, that's a cool platform and all, but why should I vote for you? Who the hell even are you?" And that's a good question Jimmy, let me lay it out for you:

As you've probably gathered, I'm currently Chairman of the Senate, having been one of the original Senators and a member of both ruling colitions.
I'm the Senate's only Independent senator, and accordingly I'm not bound to party loyalty, so I can vote without having to worry about what the party is trying to do. I'm free to keep to what I believe is right, and what is truly good for the region.
I'm a centrist policy-wise, and have a strong belief in compromise. I feel like everyone should be allowed to speak, and every (sane) opinion should have a seat at the table.

I hope that's enough to make my case, and if it isn't please ask! I'll make sure to get you all the information you need to make a educated decision.

Saint ryvern, Korsinia, The marconian state, Cerdenia, and 1 otherSar graniabley islands

Damn I just wrote a great bill on the petition system and the game did not save it. Feeling so frustrated right now

Saint ryvern, Korsinia, The marconian state, and Zoopolis

Developing World wrote:Damn I just wrote a great bill on the petition system and the game did not save it. Feeling so frustrated right now

That’s why you should use an offsite word processor to write things. I use Google Docs to create and store my factbooks.

Korsinia, The marconian state, Developing World, and Zoopolis

Oh God what now?

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