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Miklania wrote:First. The rest would make you look like a Nazi.

I prefer the third one, although the nazi thing crossed my mind as well. In that case you could e.g. change the black for dark green or blue, or darken the red a little bit.

Veltora

Do ICBM's loaded with conventional explosives count as WMD's? Because if so then I have WMD's, if not, then I dont.

Nhoor wrote:I prefer the third one, although the nazi thing crossed my mind as well. In that case you could e.g. change the black for dark green or blue, or darken the red a little bit.

I tried blue, but then it's just Norway with a coat of arms in an odd size. The green works surpirsingly well imo, thanks for the advice!

Veltora wrote:Do ICBM's loaded with conventional explosives count as WMD's? Because if so then I have WMD's, if not, then I dont.

ICBMs without a large warhead are pretty much useless, youre pretty much wasting money at that point.

Veltora wrote:Do ICBM's loaded with conventional explosives count as WMD's? Because if so then I have them, if not, then I dont.

ICBMs are intended to deliver nuclear warheads. You could use theoretically operate conventional ordinance on ICBMs, but these are best delivered on cruise missiles and other much smaller missiles. After all, such ordinance is hardly a deterrent.

Edit: As Balnik stated, it would be a waste of time to develop a launch vehicle (ICBM) just to deliver the explosive power, of, let's say, ten or twelve JDAMs.

Eurania wrote:ICBMs are intended to deliver nuclear warheads. You could use theoretically operate conventional ordinance on ICBMs, but these are best delivered on cruise missiles and other much smaller missiles. After all, such ordinance is hardly a deterrent.

Edit: As Balnik stated, it would be a waste of time to develop a launch vehicle (ICBM) just to deliver the explosive power, of, let's say, ten or twelve JDAMs.

Balnik wrote:ICBMs without a large warhead are pretty much useless, youre pretty much wasting money at that point.

Would that necessarily be a waste? There are large distances in this region. If he wants to have a conventional ballistic missile capability, it makes sense to develop one with the range to reach the targets he needs to. That means ICBMs or IRBMs.

Domanania and Thuzbekistan

Miklania wrote:Would that necessarily be a waste? There are large distances in this region. If he wants to have a conventional ballistic missile capability, it makes sense to develop one with the range to reach the targets he needs to. That means ICBMs or IRBMs.

Idk. Seems like the main purpose of a ballistic missile is kinda nullified imo,to deliver a large weapon over great distances where it cannot be intercepted in re-entry. There are also long range cruise missiles and bombers if a conventional payload needs to be delivered over a long distance.

Miklania wrote:Would that necessarily be a waste? There are large distances in this region. If he wants to have a conventional ballistic missile capability, it makes sense to develop one with the range to reach the targets he needs to. That means ICBMs or IRBMs.

Last I remember, TWI isn’t large enough for ICBMs but well large enough for IRBMs.

But to answer the question asked, no an ICBM or really any missile platform not loaded with a WMD is not considered a WMD.

Dormill and Stiura wrote:

But to answer the question asked, no an ICBM or really any missile platform not loaded with a WMD is not considered a WMD.

The people of London in 1945 might argue that point as V2 rockets were dropping on the city.

Wellsia wrote:The people of London in 1945 might argue that point as V2 rockets were dropping on the city.

The people of London love to complain.

I likely (secretly IC) have chemical weapons. No nuclear though. Although all that untouched uranium could change that if me and Ostehaar ever sort out our deal. lol

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I have enough nukes to obliterate the whole of eastern Europe.

Wellsia and Belle ilse en terre

Miklania wrote:I have enough nukes to obliterate the whole of eastern Europe.

So, like 5?

Thuzbekistan wrote:So, like 5?

The figure is slightly closer to 380.

Thuzbekistan

Wellsia wrote:The people of London in 1945 might argue that point as V2 rockets were dropping on the city.

if they had been WMDs there wouldn’t be any londoners around to argue

Wellsia and Thuzbekistan

Dormill and Stiura wrote:Last I remember, TWI isn’t large enough for ICBMs but well large enough for IRBMs.

Last number i saw was that TWI, map edge to map edge, was slightly larger than the Continental USA

Domanania wrote:Last number i saw was that TWI, map edge to map edge, was slightly larger than the Continental USA

It is significantly larger than that. It's 7,000 miles longways and 4,000 miles along the short axis. Coast to coast in the USA is something like 2,500 miles, give or take.

So who used WMD''s and when?

Miklania wrote:It is significantly larger than that. It's 7,000 miles longways and 4,000 miles along the short axis. Coast to coast in the USA is something like 2,500 miles, give or take.

Which brings up a rather interesting point. So I decided to hop on Google Earth and approximately draw out the area TWI represents, and there's a bit to say.

Just doing crude drawing from around the border of the Okhotsk, Philippine Sea, and Pacific plates, TWI covers an area that extends on its northwestern corner halfway between Pensacola and Panama City, FL, and to a southwestern point around the same latitude as Rio. Needless to say, TWI is massive now that I have a firm visual reference. And in that I retract my previous statement, ICBMs are totally viable on a map as large as TWI actually is.

Miklania, Athara magarat, Belle ilse en terre, Dragao do mar, and 1 otherVeltora

Athara magarat

Dormill and Stiura wrote:Which brings up a rather interesting point. So I decided to hop on Google Earth and approximately draw out the area TWI represents, and there's a bit to say.

Just doing crude drawing from around the border of the Okhotsk, Philippine Sea, and Pacific plates, TWI covers an area that extends on its northwestern corner halfway between Pensacola and Panama City, FL, and to a southwestern point around the same latitude as Rio. Needless to say, TWI is massive now that I have a firm visual reference. And in that I retract my previous statement, ICBMs are totally viable on a map as large as TWI actually is.

This. I have always been saying that Gael itself is as large as Europe. The Pacific Ocean is nearly half the circumference (antipode or something) of Earth (those darned Polynesian sailors were amazing); so no surprises there.

We have plenty of large nations.

The Central Canal itself is around 110-120 km in range.

Dormill and Stiura and Veltora

Athara magarat wrote:This. I have always been saying that Gael itself is as large as Europe. The Pacific Ocean is nearly half the circumference (antipode or something) of Earth (those darned Polynesian sailors were amazing); so no surprises there.

We have plenty of large nations.

The Central Canal itself is around 110-120 km in range.

Yeah I should’ve honestly internalized what you’ve been saying but now I just see the light in it.

Balnik wrote:So who used WMD''s and when?

Me, just now, in the bathroom.

Alteran Republics, Nhoor, Mitravarta, and Veltora

Agadar wrote:Me, just now, in the bathroom.

So who will be exposed to the fallout and certain death if prolonged?

Miklania wrote:It is significantly larger than that. It's 7,000 miles longways and 4,000 miles along the short axis. Coast to coast in the USA is something like 2,500 miles, give or take.

to be fair "last time i checked" was about a year ago. so it may have been changed

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