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This is an aside, but I don't believe science can tell the truth or lie, science is not the truth. Science is merely a way of discovering facts about the natural world, it is more the method, and methods can be improved. For example, the microscope revolutionized science but did not change the truth, rather it merely updated the way we use this method to determine what is true and what is not about the world. So science can lead to mistaken conclusions, and it can often lead to the right conclusions, but it is in and of itself not a thing that tells the truth or lies. It is a pet peeve of mine when people personify science, like "believe science" or "science says" one can believe in the conclusions drawn from stringent use of the scientific method, and in doing so trust the methods involved in the modern scientific method, but believing in the method can be different than believing in its conclusions. I know when people say "believe science" they mean trust the processes professionals use to draw well-established conclusions that are the best explanation for natural things as they stand, but I still dislike the personification of the method on a personal level.
You're absolutely correct. As you say, there is a difference between trusting the scientific method and trusting the professionals who use it. Science is humanity's best attempt to determine truth about the natural world, and that's it. Unfortunately, there are some who see it as the humanist bible- an infallible, all-sufficient source of truth on everything that exists ("everything" being the natural world, of course). This is scientism, and it's as much of a religion as any other.
This is why I don't see the point in science vs. religion debates. Science is dedicated to empiricism and the natural world. It is by definition limiting itself to what can be seen, observed, measured, etc. Religion/mysticism/revelation all focus on the supernatural, usually with guidelines on how devotees are supposed to behave in the natural realm. But science and religion operate in different realms with different objectives. One is concerned with natural phenomena, the other is willing to take in metaphysics and supra-natural philosophies.
I wasn't saying that you were saying that, I have just heard several other people say masks exclusively or at least primarily. I was just keeping the conversation going and coming up with a much longer, in my view debatable but more realistic, list of causes that contributed to the flu case drop.
As such the rest of your post seems like too much of a hyperbolic reaction to what you maybe thought I was saying...? I guess I'm a bit confused. Again: I am saying the effectiveness of masks was overall minimal and many factors both cut flu #s and, by extension coronavirus numbers.
Still, I guess I'll address the rest of what you say really quick.
- Did governments worldwide conspired to fabricate the effectiveness of face coverings, social distancing, and increased sanitizing in slowing the spread of infectious diseases? > No. I would say public fear/panic, the media, politicians, scientists (not as a whole but sectors of each) collectively exaggerate (and, in other sectors, minimalize) the effectiveness of these measures. I would also say that sanitizing is certainly effective, within reason, social distancing has some role, and masks have almost none. I may be wrong, but I think what few studies there are on this stuff indicate this. (Some added context to this is I have read some of the SAGE committee minutes from the UK, which tell you more-or-less what the experts over there are saying and what messaging they are putting out and I use this in part to inform what I say).
-WHO reporting drop an arm of China? I wasn't denying the drop, so I'm confused... But no: the WHO has corruption problems similar to the rest of the UN organizations, but that's it.
-Is the Deep State secretly classifying flu cases as covid? No. I wasn't saying this either. If you took this from #4 I am not implying malice or anything, simply that (as I've learned in the last year or so) that cause of death statistics are pretty flawed. In a given year significantly more people die of flu, for example, than the numbers you list because they were not tested or diagnosed with flu before they died, even if it caused their death (comorbidities are even trickier). Since the last year's preoccupation was with coronavirus (for good reasons) it is safe to assume the numbers are less realistic than usual. (I can elaborate on this if you want, but I'm keeping it short).
-Science doesn't lie, etc? I agree with Aawia here, but to add a bit it is proven that science's own observation of phenomena changes the phenomena, the scientific method is sound but very frequently (mostly?) applied in cases where it doesn't work or can't because it is using incomplete numbers or observations. The social sciences are basically all a fraud, I've learned, but don't get me started. Also: Flu deaths are not science, they are statistics that can be used for scientific things.
The deep state, however you define that, isn't classifying flu cases as covid cases. I believe their method is flawed. The reason they are being classified as covid cases are because they are looking for covid cases. Not only this, as I have said, when you die WITH covid, they classify it as a covid death no matter what. Many people have covid and dont realize it. People don't realize that obese/very unhealthy people or old people (old people would probably die just as easily from the flu) are the only ones seriously at risk.
These tyranical provisions should NOT (sacrifice all liberty) and cannot (economic-wise) go on forever, so I guess 10s of thousands more people dying next year would be neccessary. That is your logic, unless you want bags over your face and weird social distancing forever? That is sarcasm--10s of thousands of more people would not die
As far as sanitation goes, I dont care and it sounds like that would help. Social distancing may help (obviously standing close to someone with an illness makes you more likely to catch it), but it is not normal behavior to constantly stand 6 feet apart from each other. That is crazy. And by your logic that should go on forever
I must correct you on this particular point. Have you not seen the outrageous situation in India? Plenty of young people can get covid and plenty of them die from it. As someone who has family members infected with this disease currently, I can tell you that not all of them are elderly and obese or overweight. If you're overweight or elderly you have an elevated risk but they are certainly not the only ones "seriously at risk." Comorbidities can increase your risk regardless of age group. Young people are more likely to be in areas with higher risk of covid to begin with (bars, childcare centers, retail shops, etc.) They may not get as severe a case of covid if they are vaccinated, but either way young people are at risk and can die from the disease. An article in JAMA (a prestigious medical journal) entitled: "Clinical Outcomes in Young US Adults Hospitalized With COVID-19" found that young adults do carry a significant risk for the disease and at severe illness in particular. The findings are summarized here: https://www.healthline.com/health-news/these-conditions-put-young-people-at-higher-risk-for-covid-19#Young-adults-in-marginalized-groups-with-preexisting-conditions
Another thing to consider. Corona has a pretty high hospitalization rate and needs medical treatment a lot of time even though it has a good survival rate. Poorer people can’t really get medical access due to lack of funds and less flexible hours for work so if they do get infected, their chances of dying dramatically increase if they can’t get care
Indian hospitals have been turning away patients due to lack of space, people are just lying down in the hallways and corridors. Getting a hospital bed means you're very lucky and even then you're likely sharing the same "bed" with another infected person. India's healthcare system has collapsed under the weight of covid. I've had family members in India be turned away from multiple hospitals, including one family member that died simply because he couldn't get admitted in time. His death could have been prevented.